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Dirty Harry (1971) - Don Siegal - Best of Cinematic Flashback Podcast

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Season 1

Best of Cinematic Flashback: Revisiting Dirty Harry (1971) You're listening to a Best Of episode of The Cinematic Flashback Podcast. While Matt and I wrap up our summer break, we’re revisiting one of our favorite episodes of the year: Dirty Harry (1971), starring Clint Eastwood and directed by Don Siegel. We’ll be back with a brand new episode on August 14 — mark your calendars. What We Talk About:

  • Clint Eastwood’s unforgettable turn as Inspector Harry Callahan
  • How the film reshaped the crime genre and launched a wave of renegade cop movies
  • The evolution of the “dirty cop” archetype across the Dirty Harry sequels
  • The real-world influence of the Zodiac Killer on the film’s villain, Scorpio
  • Iconic moments, including the “Do you feel lucky?” showdown and the bank robbery shootout
  • The choice of weapons and whether Harry’s .44 Magnum is more myth than muscle
New This Episode: Matt shares why Dirty Harry still hits hard today — and how Clint Eastwood’s portrayal turned Callahan into a lasting cultural figure. Why Listen? If you love gritty thrillers, unforgettable performances, and films that changed the game, this one's for you. Connect With Us 🎬 Cinematic Flashback Want to share your thoughts on the episode? Visit cinematicflashback.com — leave us a voice message, send us an email, or subscribe to the newsletter for updates, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes extras. Credits Music by: “1975” – Josh Kirsch / Media Right Productions All video clips featured in this podcast are the property of their respective owners and are used under fair use for commentary, criticism, and analysis. No copyright infringement is intended.

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Hey, movie lovers, You're listening to a best of episode

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of Cinematic Flashback. While Matt and I are finishing up

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our summer break, we're pulling out one of our favorite

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episodes that we covered earlier this year, nineteen seventy one's

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Dirty Harry, starring Clint Eastwood and directed by Don Siegel.

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We'll be back with a brand new episode on August fourteenth,

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so mark your calendars. Enjoy us then, but for now,

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enjoy this flashback.

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Welcome to the Cinematic Flashback Podcast. Get ready to hop

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into the wayback machine as we journey through the wild, bold,

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and unforgettable films of the nineteen seventies. Each episode will

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break down a classic or not so classic movie with

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each film, dive into the premise and the plot, see

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how it performed then and now, and wrap things up

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with did it roof of the decades or did it

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lose its beat? In today's episode, we are going to

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talk about nineteen seventy one's Dirty Harry, directed by Don

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Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood. Joining me again this week

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is Matt.

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Matt, Welcome back.

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Thanks for having me again, and we're going to be

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reviewing a great seminole movie that really set the stage

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for a lot of movies in the future in the

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nineteen seventies.

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It changed cop movies forever.

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Yeah, it did. It's also sort of introduced normal people

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to Miranda Rights.

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One hundred percent. We're talking today about Dirty Harry, the

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toughest nail San Francisco inspector who's tracking down a serial killer.

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It was released a December twenty third, nineteen seventy one,

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directed by Don Siegel. Story was written by Harry and

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Rita Fink and was polished up by longtime collaborator Dan Reisner.

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Andy Robinson plays the killer who goes by the name

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of Scorpio.

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This is about a movie about a couple of killers,

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Harry Callahan and a homicidal maniac. The one with a

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badge is Harry. There were a lot of reasons they

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called him Dirty Harry, and he kept inventing new ones.

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You don't assign him, stop the murder cases. You're just

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turn him loose.

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Did you see this one in the theaters?

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I did not. I was only ten years old at

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the time this came out, and I think I did

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see it pretty early on, probably earlier than maybe I

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should have. I remember it well, but I don't think

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it was ever on TV, and if it was certainly

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way cleaned up. Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit

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racy here and there. And the interesting part about San

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Francisco has depicted in the movie, is you really spend

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a lot of time in those parts of the city

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that were, let's say, catering to more carnal a red

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light district. Yes, exactly. Yeah, but of course the old

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saying goes, you go to where the criminals are. It's

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a great movie. I remember it being different when I

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just watched it again recently, and it was cool to

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watch it again recently and say, it's actually a pretty

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simple film. I thought it was much more complex in

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thinking back about it, but after watching it again, it's

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a very simple storyline. It's a cop who's a bit hardened,

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although I remember him being much more hard boiled than

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is depicted in this movie if you just take this

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movie by itself. Possibly in later Dirty Harry versions they

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made him more hard boiled, but in this one he's

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clearly a cop who is on the edge somewhat because

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his partners get injured quite often, and you find out

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in the movie that his wife was killed in an accident.

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This film sets up the prototype of so many future

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cop films, both on film and in television, including movies

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TV shows like N White, PD Blue. I always say

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that character Sipowitz whenever I think of Dirty Harry. I

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think my introduction to Dirty Harry, the first movie. There's

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five movies in the whole series, the latest one being

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from the late eighties called The Deadpool, which is the

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one I remember seeing in the theaters. But I know

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I did watch the earlier ones on videotape, and I

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don't recall if I really liked one or the other better.

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But from what I was reading about, the hair Callahan

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movies drift back and forth a little bit, So if

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some of the critiques was maybe he played a little

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fast and hard with the law, or maybe the next

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one it might have changed a little bit where somebody

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else was doing it and then he was reacting to that.

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I think this Harry Callahan is probably the dirtiest of

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the Dirty Harry movies.

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Yeah, and it's funny. There's sort of a running theme

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that he gets a new partner because his partner is

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in the hospital. I'm putting somebody with you. What are

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you talking about? You need a partner. It's better the partner.

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I've got nothing except he's in the hospital.

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So he'll be on a couple of weeks. Say hello

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to Chico Gonzalez. He'll be working with you.

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Yep.

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From a gunshot wound to the gut, which seems to

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his partner previous to that was actually killed.

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So he's saying, I don't need another partner, and they

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assign him this young college graduate partner, and that I

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think that's used in the movie for us to be

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able to get to understand Harry. He's not just striding

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around not talking because this character is his low on

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words and high on action. So you needed a foil

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of some sort. So this character does that.

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Yeah, His partner, even his partner's wife, helps to pull

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out some of the details about Harry that we otherwise

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wouldn't have seen.

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Right like the death of his You knew his wife

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was dead, you didn't know what happened, and the wife

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of the partner, you find that out. The other thing

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that's interesting is that partner is a good partner if

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it turns out, if you see they work really well together.

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Harry lets him drive the car, which in typical cop movies,

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if you don't trust your partner, he doesn't try to

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dry it. So I noticed that in the movie is like,

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he clearly has some trust for this guy after they

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work a very short time together, which I thought was

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pretty cool because typically you would paint Harry very one

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to as being, you know, the gruff. I don't trust anybody.

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This guy's a knucklehead. You don't get that because he

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lets him drive, and he drives pretty aggressively at points,

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So they're clearly of one mind how they're gonna do things,

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which I thought was quite interesting in looking at it

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in retrospect.

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And you'll see the same kind of buddy cop pick

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or when they're partnering up. Like if you think of

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the first Lethal Weapon movie, you have Riggs who is

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joining Murtog, and Murtog is the more experienced cop. Riggs

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is the more unhinged cop.

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Be as I'm suppose to tell you, you're breathing in

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a new partner in on this partner again. Yeah, some

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Caddy's on loan from dope real burnout on the Ragged edge.

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Oh perfect.

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Yeah, but you still see that same kind of relationship

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initially when they're kind of feeling each other out as

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to whether or not what kind of partner will this

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person be.

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So I think you can't talk about this movie really

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without talking about the idea of Harry Callahan's weapon of choice.

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He's a detective. He's an inspector, which means he's actually

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higher in rank than Jake.

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I even have better trivia on that one.

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What's that?

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So in the San Francisco Police Department they're only referred

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to as inspectors. Oh okay, yeah, everywhere else it's a detective.

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Today in England, an inspector is a rank like a lieutenant,

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and so that's where you would get increases. But they

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just call him inspectors in San Francisco, which I'm not

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sure if it's unique to San Francisco. I was wondering

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what's the difference between the inspector and the detective, and

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I came across that, Oh.

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Very good.

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When I said that John Millius did some rewrites and

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he polished up the script, he was uncredited, but the

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things that he brought to it also were some of

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the bigger over the top things like the choice of

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weapon that he used. And I know that you know

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a lot more about weapons than I do. What firearm

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is Harry carrying here?

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So Harry is carrying the forty four magnum by Smith

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and Wesson. It is the Model twenty nine, and I

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think he had like a six and a half inch

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or six inch barrel on it, which is quite a

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giant gun, commonly referred to as a hand cannon. It

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is not one that any policeman would probably ever carry.

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And the reason is it's incredibly heavy. It's a giant gun,

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and it has to be heavy because that load, that

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forty four magnum load, that refers to not only the

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diameter of the bullet, but the amount of powder that's

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in it. That's the magnum. It's a longer shellcasing with

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more powder in it. So it's incredibly powerful. It's really

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was designed for having as a side arm when you're

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hunting bears. It was not something you would carry around

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the streets of San Francisco. You couldn't run with. It

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would beat you to death. But it was good in

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terms of this movie. The other famous part about this

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is that it is a six shot revolver. They're famously

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inaccurate because you have part of the barrel as moving,

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the part with the cartridge in it, and it has

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to line up per quickly with the barrel. Typically, that

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doesn't happen. If you really wanted to shoot accurately with

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a gun, you would have some sort of automatic that

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lodges the bullet into the barrel in the exact same

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way every time. It's great for a cinema because it's

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a giant gun, and it photographs well, and it makes

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a very distinctive sound in the movie. And they do

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a great job with that because I think the first

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time you see in the movie he pulls it out

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during the bank robbery. Oh what a scene. Yeah, that

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is a great scene.

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That scene is so classic. I had forgotten a lot

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of details about this scene. I know what you're thinking,

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did he fire six shots or only five? Well, I'll

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tell you the truth.

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In all this excitement, I have kind of lost track myself.

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But he in this forty four magnet, the most powerful

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handgun in the world, and would blow your.

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Head clean off.

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You've got to ask yourself one question.

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Do I feel lucky? What do you think they do

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a great job with this storytelling, because what you find

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out from the scene is not only that it's an

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exciting scene and everything, but you find out that Harry

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is incredibly observant. And they do give us a hint

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in the movie, because of course they're trying to lead

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us along, because if you just had Harry go hey,

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is that car stilightling? You would be like why in

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the movie they show the guy sitting in the car,

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they show the cigarettes piling up outside of his window

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on the ground, so clearly he's been there for a while.

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Harry notices this when he goes into his favorite coffee shop,

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has some banter with the owner and it gets a

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hot dog and he wants to finish it. And then,

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of course you also learn somewhat about Harry as he

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has the owner call the police and tell him what's

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going on. And then he's sitting there eating his hot dog,

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hoping that they police get here, and he says they

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says that please wait for the cavalry cavali.

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Hey, before we move forward, When he's walking into the restaurant,

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did you notice the cinema marquee that he walks by?

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I didn't, Oh, okay, So on the cinema. It was

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showing play Misty for Me Oh, which was Clint Eastwood's

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first directorial movie. Think about this though, in the world

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of Harry Callahan Clint Eastwood exist. Yes, that's bizarre funny.

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I always think those those little inside jokes that they

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do for each other that it's hilarious. They probably who

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knows when they were filming it, and they probably had

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to get the guy to put a markie up say

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this will be out by then. This is great advertising.

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I think the locations that they shot on were all

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over San Francisco due to the stunts with the car

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and with the shooting and everything. I think this was

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filmed on a stage on a.

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Back was it Okay? Well, that's even funnier. So they

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definitely set that up.

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It was very purposeful.

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So I will tell you a funny anecdote about Clint

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Eastwood movies. My brother was a huge fan of Clint

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Eastwood spaghetti westerns, right like The Man with No Name

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and yeah, all of all of Us, all of the Dollars, Yeah, good, bad,

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and the Ugly. He loved those movies, absolutely loved him.

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And it was funny when you follow Clint Eastwood's career.

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He basically went out to do it is Sergiet Was

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it Sergio? Yeah? Spaghetti, the Spaghetti Western, the spaghetti Westerns.

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But they were they were They're great movies. When you

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watch it, they're they're super hokey. But my brother just

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loved him and we had to watch them whenever they

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came on TV. He would make us watch it. It

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was pretty funny. It's one of my one of my

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very treasured memories of my youth is like any Clin

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Eastwood Spaghetti Western game on, we were watching it. And

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this went on all through most of my young life.

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So I knew Clint Eastwood from that. We knew Clint

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Eastwood from another a bunch of other movies. He was

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a known quantity for the most part, although not as

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well known as he was once these series came out.

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He was.

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He was also on television. I thought he was maybe

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on on Wagon Train or one of those.

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Yeah, yeah, he was, or he was some sort of

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cow poke or something that was That's why he got

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the spaghetti Western roles, I think is because he could

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ride a horse. There was something about that. So it's funny.

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The character of Dirty Harry was originally envisioned to be

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in his late fifties, like fifty five to sixty years old.

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Clint Eastwood was forty one at the time. He had

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been acting for years by the time he got to

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this film. Like you said, he's very well established. I

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know we talked about this during the French Connection, but

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America was going to transitional time, and so in terms

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of stories that were being told, we were transitioning from

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the Cowboy movie into the cop movies. I think Clint

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Eastwood after Dirty Harry, has established himself as the biggest

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action star, even surpassing John Wayne.

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Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. I do remember

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some of this undercurrent of large amount of change that

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was going on in our society, right. There was a

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lot of people and they make reference in the movies

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like your hair is too long, you need a haircut.

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The protagonganist, the bad guy's got a big, bushy head

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of hair. He looks sort of like what we would

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term as a long hair, and he's very despicable. We

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know we can trust somebody who protects children and women. Yes,

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and you hear about that in the movie. He gets

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dressed down by the mayor about an alleged rapist, Sir,

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I don't want any more trouble like you had last

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year in the film or district understand that's my policy. Yeah, Well,

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when the adult male is chasing a female with intent

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to commit rape, I shoot the beast. That's my policy. Intent.

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How did you establish that?

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Well, a naked man is chasing a woman through an

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alley with a butcher knife and a heart on.

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I figure isn't now collecting the Red Cross. I think

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he's got a part when a rapist is Yeah, it goes,

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but it gets pretty bad. But the floody part is

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the mayor is just like okay, I guess, so.

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You may have a point with I think. Another thing

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that resonated with the movie going audience at the time

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was the character of Scorpio. Scorpio is the moniker of

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the bad guy in the film, and it's heavily influenced

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by the Zodiac Killer. The name Zodiac was the pseudonym

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that an unidentified serial killer had taken who was murdering

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known victims in San Francisco in the late sixties. And

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the scary thing is that the Zodiac Killer was never caught.

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Well, is that true still? Because I thought they caught

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him through the DNA tracing.

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The way in which they handled DNA on the stamps.

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They didn't handle it very well. Other serial killers that

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had cold cases were resolved due to DNA. But what

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I read and what I researched on the Zodiac was

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now caught. There's a lot of similarities in the Zodiac

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and with Scorpio, including the Zodiac would send these taunting

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letters to be published in the newspapers, and if they didn't,

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he would go on a killing spree or blow up things.

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He would include these cryptograms and them there were four

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all together, and two were solved to or not. At

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one point he threatened to shoot a tire out of

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a school bus, and as the little children were exiting,

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he would shoot at them. The symbol that I thought

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this interesting was the symbol the Zodiac would always sign

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his letters with the crosshair. At the very beginning of

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the movie, when Scorpio is about to take his first victim,

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the first thing you see is he's looking through the

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scope and the young woman in the pool is swimming

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within his crosshairs.

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There was definitely some fear, and you can imagine with

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the Zodiac killer it's all in the newspaper or we're

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not even on the internet at that point, where, yeah,

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that makes a lot of sense on audio that hit.

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And from an audience perspective, I don't think that Scorpio,

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being one of the astrological symbols would have been lost

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in They knew right away that this was maybe a

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stand in for the Zodiac.

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Killer as well.

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You had talked about Harry's side arm. Yeah, okay, So

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I did a little bit of research on the weapons

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that Scorpio carried, yes, and I found the thing that

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I found very interesting about this is there's three weapons

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that he uses in the film. There's the sniper rifle,

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which is six, Yeah, the thirty six. It's an Arisaka

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Type two paratrooper takedown rifle.

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Right, it comes apart into a.

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Case, and that's a Japanese rifle. And then he also

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has the MP forty submachine gun, yeah, the German rifle.

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And then he from the store, the liquor store clerk,

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he takes a Walter P thirty eight, which is also

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a German gun as well. So the weapons he uses

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are all access guns.

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I only looked at that gun really quick that he

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stole from the liquor store guy. I thought that was

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a lucre ye, but Walter made a gun that was

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very similar with a narrowed barrel, so that makes sense. Yes,

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still a German.

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If I had not looked it up, I would have said.

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It was a luger. Yeah, yeah, it has a similar

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look to it. Calling back to our the size of

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the gun, So a thirty odd six was actually the

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thirty caliber round point three of an inch, right, and

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those other to the MP what was it an empty?

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It was an MP forty.

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I think that's a nine millimeter round. I'm pretty sure

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that the forty is point four to zero, but it

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could be something else, but probably a nine millimeter or

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something like that. And then that pistol was probably chambered

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for Did you get the size from the sun No?

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I did so Walter. It was probably again a nine

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millimeter or a thirty eight type, so point three of

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an inch. So it was just interesting to compare that

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to a pistol that's shooting a point four to four.

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It's his pistols obviously have shorter barrels, so they don't

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shoot as far and aren't as accurate. But it's just

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interesting to see the biggest of all the shots were

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being fired by Harry Callahan.

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And you mentioned the weight of the Smith and Wesson.

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Yeah.

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Originally the actor that was tied to play Harry Callahan

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was Frank Sinatra, and he.

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Fit the profile.

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He was fifty five years old at the time. They

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were going to get IRV Kirshner to direct the film,

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so IRV Kirshner. He went on to direct the best

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Star Wars film ever, The Empire Strikes Back. But Sinatra

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had injured his hand. He was not able to hold

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the Smith and Wesson.

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That gun is heavy. I'm telling you, I used to

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have a three fifty seven magnum years ago with a

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four inch barrel, and that was a heavy gun, So

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I can't imagine all the forty four now. Everybody always

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ask is it's still the most powerful made in the world,

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and no, it is not. The power of a gun

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comes from a variety of different things. One is the

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size of the cartridge and how much weight is in

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the bullet and how much powder, but also how long

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the barrel is, so how fast the bullet can get

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going because of the back pressure, because you know, with

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a short barrel, once the bullet leaves the barrel, there's

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no more pressure pushing it down. So that's why rifles

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have a higher power coming out because they push gas

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for longer. But that's why you have that pistol with

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a pretty long barrel. So it was pretty powerful. And

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he was shooting across the road through car doors and.

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Yeah, he put it was oh man, so he put

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what in the bank robbery scene, he was able to

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shoot the driver of the car that was coming straight

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at him. So one of the things that I picked

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up on is like when he's eating the hot dog

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and he's waiting for the cavalry to come, the first

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thing he hears is prior to the bell of the

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alarm of the bank going off, you hear a shotgun blast.

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Immediately he already knows that these are armed criminals. He's

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walking down the road, still eating and chewing on his

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hot dog, and he fires at the guy holding the shotgun,

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and then a couple of the robbers get it into

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the getaway car, which he shoots and it flips over

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and it hits and eventually, let's say.

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In the movie, he fires off a bunch of rounds

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because no one thinks to count them during that scene.

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I think he's counting it. Oh, he absolutely always knows.

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Right.

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You have to know because if you have six, you

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need to know if he fired six or if he

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fired five.

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Oh, he absolutely knew whether he had around aft or not.

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There's no doubt about it. And we know that. At

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the beginning, you're thinking, huh, did he maybe not know it?

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And it turns out he had fired all six and

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the guys.

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That one guy says in one version of the script,

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Callahan puts the gun to his temple and pulls his own. Yes,

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in this case, it was better.

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Pointing at it. And he knew for Fiuelli had shot

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all six. I mean they knew that, So you knew

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that then. And then when there's a callback, which all

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good movies have a callback to a similar scene at

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the end, which delivers beautifully.

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I was trying to count the shots at the end,

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because knowing how it ends, I'm trying to count how

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many times and I because they're in this rock quarry

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with all the machinery that he was not able to

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follow who was shooting. I got lost in that one.

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But I'm just going to assume that, based on movie

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magic and accuracy, that he fired the number of rounds.

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That he said he found just real quick. Going back

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to guns and police work, nowadays, policeman carries a lighter

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gun nine milimeter, usually a glock or something special similar,

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usually holds up to thirteen rounds. They don't want to

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have to reload if they actually have to fire their

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weapon in the middle, whereas a six shooter reloading revolver

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is a slow process. You certainly have seen that they

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can reload them quick in some other movies where they

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pop it open, they dump all the shells onto the ground,

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but it's very often that a shell doesn't spent, cartridge

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doesn't come out easy, it's a pain, and then you

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have to dropped the speedloader in. So the idea of

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carrying a six shooter is a little bit archaic. Even

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in nineteen seventy one.

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It did play though, into that idea of him being

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the modern day cowboy. This wasn't the first movie that

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Clint Eastwood and director Don Siegel had worked together.

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Ford helped Wayne mold this persona and then shaped it.

461
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I think that John Houston was instrumental in creating Bogart's persona,

462
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:33.119
and I think that Don Siegel was instrumental in establishing

463
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:34.240
Clint's persona.

464
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:39.000
Don Ziegel is a veteran director of Hollywood films. He

465
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:43.279
got his start directing montages for older films. He also

466
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.640
directed films such as Riot and Cell Block eleven, Escaped

467
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.279
from Alcatraz with Eastwood and the film that I was

468
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:56.079
more familiar with was Invasion of the Body Snatchers, which

469
00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:02.240
again gets remade in nineteen seventy nine starring Donald Sutherland.

470
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.000
He had a very specific kind of character in his films.

471
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:09.680
Often tough and stoic. They're rebellious, they're a bit of

472
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:13.720
a rule breaker. There may be a little morally ambiguous

473
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.400
in that they they're not black and white heroes. They're

474
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:20.240
often flawed with some kind of demons or questionable means.

475
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:23.880
They're often loners or outsiders. They're very efficient, and they're

476
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:28.599
very practical, and they have somewhat of a cynical worldview.

477
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:32.640
Does that describe Harry Callahan to a t now, Harry?

478
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.960
It's often recognized that he is the more extreme version

479
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.319
of the SEAgel hero. For Andrew Robinson, this was his

480
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:43.519
theatrical debut. He was actually picked by Eastwood, who had

481
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:45.920
seen him in a local production of a play called

482
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.559
The Idiot, and Don Siegel wanted him because he had

483
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:53.000
this face of a choir boy and his portrayal was

484
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:56.640
so convincing that afterwards he got death threats.

485
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.480
Yeah, heck of a movie to be your debut, because

486
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:02.519
talk about getting type cast. And he did have that

487
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.720
sort of disconcerting, creepy I don't know what it was exactly.

488
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.480
There's a scene where he's wearing a ski mask and

489
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:12.680
all the acting is coming from his eyes, and then

490
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:17.200
there's another scene where he pays a person to beat

491
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.759
the living snot out of him, and his face is

492
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.119
all blurred up and broken up, and all you can

493
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.119
really see is the remainder of his eyes and whatnot.

494
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.960
And then when they have them all wrapped up afterwards

495
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.880
and bandages, you just see his eyes and it just

496
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.240
it's always a little bit crazy and unhinged.

497
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.480
Yeah, for sure, he does a great job with that.

498
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.720
It is tough to be an actor who portrays that world.

499
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:46.240
I will say my overall estimation of the guy comes

500
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.759
in all beat up like that, like crazy beat up,

501
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.680
and then accuses Harry Callahan, and to me, it's we

502
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.160
go from that right to holding up the school bus

503
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.200
I think they cut something out because it just feels

504
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.920
like there should have been like six or eight months

505
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.640
or Harry wasn't allowed to follow him was waiting for

506
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.400
something to happen, and then a guy finally breaks and

507
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:10.160
he has to go. He beat up, he gets better

508
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.640
and he immediately goes out and takes over a school bus.

509
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.400
Which that was one of those things where it's like

510
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:16.880
in a movie, while you're watching, you probably don't notice.

511
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:17.519
It, you don't think of it.

512
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.720
I've gotten more critical and I'm watching movies. I'm like, yeah,

513
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.160
it doesn't really hang for me. And there should have

514
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.960
been more trouble for Harry. He might have even had

515
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:28.480
to have lost or been on suspension and lost his

516
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.279
weapon or something. That would have been a really interesting

517
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.200
turn of events for him because he's so identified with

518
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:34.880
his weapon.

519
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:39.160
Sometimes films don't show you transitions. Because there there was

520
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.920
a scene where Scorpio gets the knife in the leg

521
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.079
and then he goes over to the emergency room and

522
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.480
they patch him up, and then Callahan's lieutenant gets the

523
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.279
call that hey, we just treated a knife wound in

524
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.400
the leg over here, and then the very next cut,

525
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.279
Harry is there at the hospital talking with him, And

526
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:57.960
when I watched, I was like, wait, how did he

527
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.359
get from point A to point B? Yeah, cut out,

528
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:01.039
we're not going to show it.

529
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.400
You need to have film driving. And I get that one,

530
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.119
that one's easy to follow. I just think that the

531
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.720
one where he where it seems like more time. Why

532
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.160
get beat up like that if it's not actually going

533
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.319
to really impact Harry in the department.

534
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.400
So I think the scene where he's in the hospital

535
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.960
after being beaten up was to introduce this idea of

536
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.599
accused rights versus the victim's rights. Harry goes to the

537
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.440
DA who is saying, haven't you heard of Miranda, haven't

538
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.279
you heard of Escabido? And these are all Supreme court

539
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.680
cases that were decided within a few years of the movie.

540
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:38.079
Of course, Miranda, we all know that, because if you're

541
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.160
going to be questioned by the police, you have to

542
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.839
be read your rights. And then for Escabedo was about

543
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.000
their council during police investigation. And if you think of

544
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.400
the scene on the football field, both of those are

545
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:55.519
completely violated. And that's why the das end up letting

546
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.799
Scorpio go, which is what then allows him to go

547
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.000
to the liquors, which then has him go get on

548
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:03.480
the bus with the kids.

549
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.240
So I will point out a slight difference in that,

550
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.039
And what they were really talking about was any of

551
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.039
the evidence that was gathered after he's kicked in the

552
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.720
door without a search warrant was basically null and void.

553
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.880
So the first part of that, it was the gun

554
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.240
that was used, that they had the ballistics they could

555
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:25.400
prove it was his was accessed through kicking in the door.

556
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.759
Now I have to say that's where the judge equivocates

557
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.480
a little bit, because there was someone's life at stake,

558
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.720
and then those what do they call them, those circumstances,

559
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.759
they're the rules of being able to enter. So that

560
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:43.440
probably would have been okay. But him actually putting his

561
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.960
heel on the guy's injured leg and questioning him without

562
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.079
arresting him or reading its miranda rights, that's definitely outside

563
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.680
of the rules. But of course Harry's upset about this.

564
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.440
It doesn't go crazy because we've very control.

565
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.519
He's very controlled, but I think control, yeah, But calculating, well,

566
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.279
I was thinking, this is the girls, right, but this

567
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.960
is the girl that has a limited amount of air

568
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:09.519
supply that is buried.

569
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.599
But at this point they're talking to the judge and

570
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:13.319
she's dead.

571
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:15.480
Well, yeah, but when he put his hand on it,

572
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.599
when he put his foot on the leg yet.

573
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.799
Right now, so I get that I'm talking about. In

574
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:24.400
the scene with the judge and the DA, Harry's angry

575
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.960
that they're going to let this guy go. And the

576
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.039
reason you find out when he walks out is like,

577
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:30.720
how do you know he's going to do it again?

578
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.319
He goes because he enjoys it. So it was one

579
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.319
of those things where he's a step ahead of these people.

580
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.559
He knows this guy's going to go out. He's trying

581
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.319
to save the future person's life who's going to get killed,

582
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.799
but they don't seem to care, and he's I'm not

583
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:44.519
going to lose any sleep about him just going to

584
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.039
basically get this guy when he does invariably commit a

585
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:48.599
crime again.

586
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:54.160
We have a certain knowledge about Scorpio that if this

587
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.480
was happening in real life, we really wouldn't know that

588
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.000
he is guilty, right, and we may want to play

589
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.200
by all the rules. I think one of the appeals

590
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.880
of this movie is that Harry is more concerned with justice.

591
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.359
It might not be what's legally right, but what is

592
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.799
just it's getting back into that Don Siegel's character.

593
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.720
Right. A good example of that is going up in

594
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.079
the ladder thing just to get the guy who's gonna

595
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.079
commit suicide.

596
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:23.559
Aren't you gonna try to grab me?

597
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.480
A friend of mine was up about twenty floors with

598
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.960
a jumper a few years ago, and jumper grabman. They

599
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.559
went off and twenty floors down just mashed them all over.

600
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.720
The paper couldn't tell which legs group with which and

601
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.599
which arms are with witch And it was a terrible miss.

602
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:41.640
I tell you, I almost drew up myself.

603
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.240
I just like your name and andress. That's all why.

604
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.720
Like I said, it's such a mess down there afterwards, and.

605
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.079
It's a It makes identification impossible even if they.

606
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.119
Find your driver's license, all that blood and everything.

607
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.559
Oh and he goes up there and he just starts

608
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.559
telling him what a mess it's gonna be on the ground, Yeah,

609
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:02.680
and basically gross the guy out. And he's not nice

610
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.519
about it. He's telling him, he's yeah, that's my god,

611
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.200
I'm I'm just trying to tell you this is what

612
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.079
it is. Knowing full well, he's basically spooking the guy

613
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.359
and then he grabs him and with no ceremony. He's

614
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.599
like holding him barely on to the side of that

615
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.039
box where they lower him, and he doesn't care if

616
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.720
the guy struggles and falls he dies, but he's super

617
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.079
efficient because he's just gonna go up there and get him.

618
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:27.039
And then at the end of that, which I thought

619
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.279
was really telling, is he's talking to the new partner.

620
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.200
Now you know why they call me dirty here every

621
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.759
dirty jump it comes along. This is the scene that

622
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.279
Clint Eastwood directed, and it's the reason why he has

623
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:43.240
a directoral credit on this film. They had already predetermined

624
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.640
that Eastwood is a director, and he's going to be

625
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.599
way up high, going up inside up this bucket, and

626
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.799
they're going to have this conversation with him and the

627
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.599
stunt man that's going to be up high, and then

628
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.680
they're going to do that stunt where the jumper ends

629
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.720
up on the bucket and then comes down. And so

630
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.559
between having lighting and a cameraman up there that just said, hey, Clint,

631
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.079
you do it, go ahead and direct this particular scene.

632
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:10.000
That's great.

633
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.079
It just so happened though that Don Siegal was sick

634
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.079
that week or that during that night, so but that

635
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.880
had nothing to do with it. The studio had set

636
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.359
aside on their schedule six days to film this. Clint

637
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.559
Easwood sayd I can do it in two and he

638
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:27.039
ultimately did it in one night.

639
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.440
Wow, that's amazing. So yeah, and as we know now,

640
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.920
I mean looking back, Glinny' still going on to have

641
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:37.119
a stellar career as a director also an actor's director.

642
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.480
I don't know if you've heard a lot of anecdotes

643
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.400
about how he directs, but he doesn't yell action. He

644
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.759
just says go ahead, and actors love that because it's

645
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.359
not a shocking transition, it's not a and if you talk,

646
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.960
I've seen a few of the videos of saying, work

647
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.519
in with Clint is just a real pleasure because he

648
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.759
lets actors act and he has very small adjustments since suggestions,

649
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.279
and evidently people love that.

650
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.079
He's an American treasure. The film Dirty Harry was inducted

651
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.559
into the National Film Registry in twenty twelve. The other

652
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.239
nineteen seventy one movie that had already been injured was

653
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.679
The French Connection. These films are selected not as the

654
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.320
best films, but as films that best represent the culture

655
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.920
in who we are as a people at a particular

656
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.840
point in time and side note, did you know that

657
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:33.199
in Culpeper, Virginia is the Packard Campus for Audio Visual

658
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.840
Conservation of the Library of Congress.

659
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:36.920
I did not know that.

660
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.280
They have a two hundred and five seat theater and

661
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.719
they regularly show movies and television, both digitally and on

662
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.599
film that you can go up to see.

663
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.199
I have to do an on site I'm going to

664
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.239
do a live podcast.

665
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.920
I was searching to see if they had shown Dirty Harry.

666
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.880
They had shown other movies that were inspired by Dirty Harry,

667
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:59.000
but I could not find where they had. You have

668
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.719
to show up to get you check it. There's no

669
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.159
pre booking or anything like that, so you could possibly

670
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.119
go up and not be able to get in which

671
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:07.360
case then we go out and have dinner.

672
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.480
Yeah, exactly, I have family up there. I talked a

673
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:12.440
lot about some other stuff with the gun. The most

674
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.119
interesting part about the big forty four Magnum. They originally

675
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.880
reuse a forty four Magnum with a four inch barrel,

676
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.639
but when they did some screen tests, it just looked

677
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:26.760
too ridiculous with this tiny little barrel. The actual movie

678
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.719
posters show a eight and three eight inch barrel, which

679
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.840
is a huge barrel. They actually filmed with a six

680
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.840
and a half inch barrel, So it's funny there's all

681
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.159
these different sizes that were happening, and that's all sort

682
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.960
of cinematic magic right in the poster. They wanted to

683
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.960
show how it's so commanding, and in the actual filming,

684
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.599
part of it had to do with handling an eight

685
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.320
inch barrel is ridiculous. It's so heavy and so hard

686
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.360
to get out of the hole ster. I'm sure they

687
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.079
moved it back to a six and a half inch

688
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.599
barrel for that reason. It's two full in that's a

689
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.679
lot of steel to wheeled around, So I thought that

690
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.599
was an interesting point about the weapon they chose for this. Again,

691
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:11.039
totally impractical for police work, in my opinion. Do you

692
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.480
ask me what my favorite scene was, and I have

693
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.440
to say that it's up in the air for two

694
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.400
of them. One is the bank robbing scene because I

695
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.039
just think that was just classic, so classic, and it's

696
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.920
out in the street it's big street fight. And the

697
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.239
other one is in the mayor's office when he's getting

698
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:32.639
dressed down for shooting this alleged rapist. So the dialogue

699
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.239
that happens in there with how he treats the Mayor

700
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.480
and the fact that Mayor ultimately has to acquiesce with

701
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.719
Harry's assessment of what happened and just goes on with it.

702
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.119
But those my two favorite scenes for sure. Yeah.

703
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.360
I had a few that I had listed on there,

704
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.480
and I think we had already talked about. I had

705
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.559
the bank robbery scene as well. I also really liked

706
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.000
the Kisar Stadium scene, and I thought what was really

707
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.400
really cool about that was when it was pulling out

708
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.679
at the end and they obviously had some kind of

709
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.559
aerial camera that they were pulling back, maybe on a helicopter,

710
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.000
and you have all the nice San Francisco fog.

711
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.480
It's all before drones, so covering up.

712
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.639
Oh yeah, couldn't. I keep wondering. Sometimes they filmed things

713
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.159
and and they'll display them in reverse, but they would

714
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.639
have filmed them just bringing in. I wasn't sure if

715
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.840
they had done it that way, but I thought the

716
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:31.199
whole scene was great for the reasons why we talked about.

717
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.119
And another scene that I really liked was where Scorpio

718
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.519
goes and pays a guy two hundred dollars to beat

719
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.440
the living snot out of him.

720
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.199
Yeah, and the last one, this one's on the house.

721
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.159
Yes, yeah. And the final scene that I liked was

722
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.960
the culmination. But the part that I like is as

723
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.639
the buzz is coming off the highway and it's coming

724
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.960
down and it's going to turn right and go underneath

725
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.880
the bridge, Harry is just standing on top of this

726
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.239
bridge and he is the baddest of the baddest cops ever,

727
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.360
but he's just standing there. He's caught him. And then

728
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.199
he jumps on to the top of the bus and dodges

729
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:08.960
the bullets and.

730
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.000
Right luckily the bus has a luggage rack on top.

731
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:13.440
Most buses don't have that.

732
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.440
You don't have that. But Clint Eastwood did his own

733
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.400
stunts for that, Oh did he? That was him jumping

734
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.440
off and holding one and all throughout, and I thought

735
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.239
that was just an awesome scene. But just when I

736
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.679
think of the movie Dirty Harry, the thing that always

737
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.760
comes into my mind is just seeing him standing on

738
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.480
that bridge. I thought that was incredibly iconic imagery.

739
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.800
Yeah. I like the fact that also we didn't mention it,

740
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.840
but who's a herring bone woll suit jacket throughout the

741
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.559
almost the whole movie. And then he complains when he

742
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.079
gets a shotgun blast to the leg. His doctor is

743
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.519
removing the bullet the penalty his pants and he says,

744
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.280
I'm gonna cut your pants. He's like, oh, you're not.

745
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.039
I'm gonna take him off. They were twenty nine to

746
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:56.840
fifty or something like that.

747
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.320
Well now twenty nine to fifty back in nineteen seventy

748
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:01.400
that it's still going.

749
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.119
To have a hole in it with blood. So I

750
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.239
don't know why he's so worried about him getting cut out.

751
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.119
I think that, you know, we can slide into the

752
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.760
commentary with the French connection in this movie. I think

753
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:17.639
the difference with the French connection in this is I

754
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:21.400
think the French connection really shows a lot more of

755
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:26.760
that down and dirty police work that you know, the

756
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.440
talking to the informants and the roughing up of people

757
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.800
that you didn't see in Dirty Harry. You saw. This

758
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.440
guy's a guy of action. He's pretty simple. Things kind

759
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.440
of fall in his lap, the bank robbery and he

760
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.800
deals with it. You know, he gets some information. He

761
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.119
doesn't really shake down a lot of people to get info.

762
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.760
It doesn't seem like he's obviously friendly with the people,

763
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.800
you know, in that red light district because he's in

764
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.480
the club, he's in the dance club. He's in the

765
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.159
little Diner and they know him. So there's a different,

766
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:04.320
to me, different tenor of what Popeye Doyle was like

767
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:10.320
in New York City, really being that uncomfortable ruffian at

768
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.760
every turn. He is like that to everybody, And clearly

769
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.719
I think Harry ended up how Harry was because a

770
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:23.280
variety of things, notwithstanding his wife being killed.

771
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.880
Let me throw it in this way, I think that

772
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:35.119
French Connection is a police story like Dirty Harry, but

773
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:42.159
it is much more about a realistic, procedural police story.

774
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.679
So you see how everything is done more or less

775
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.519
by the book. They get the court orders to be

776
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:55.519
able to wiretap sal Boca's phone, and you see the

777
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:00.320
different procedures for following and tailing. And the only time

778
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.599
you really see that, maybe in Dirty Harry, is when

779
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.440
they're first trying to catch Scorpio before he's about when

780
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.159
he's taking aim at a couple sitting on the bench

781
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:16.880
eating ice cream and you see that they're stacking police officers,

782
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.039
watching rooftops and everything. That's the only time that you

783
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.400
really see a procedural thing. But then Dirty Harry is

784
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.440
much more. I was surprised that it came out in December,

785
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.159
because I think today this would be a summer blockbuster

786
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.760
that you would bring out. It felt more popular in

787
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.320
terms of it being that's an action film, it's a

788
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:37.079
man of action.

789
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.519
I think we definitely see that in the French Connection.

790
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.320
You know, it's absolutely, like you said, procedural police work, cooperation,

791
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.920
all of that. In Dirty Harry, it's more like a

792
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.239
night doing single battle, right. You know, there's a little

793
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.920
bit of that stuff where they're covering the rooftops, but

794
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.679
we know pretty quick that it was dumb luck that

795
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.400
they're able to see a guy on a roof about

796
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.800
to shoot somebody and thwart that shooting and get on

797
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.599
some kind of taiale of them. But after that, it's

798
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.519
really we've essentially follow Harry in his single minded pursuit.

799
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.199
So yeah, I think that's the difference. I think it

800
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.199
definitely calls back to that kind of single gunfighter role

801
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.760
that CLINTI. Eastwood known some well for. It's just sort

802
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.760
of fast forwarded into modern day or at the time,

803
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.880
modern day San Francisco, which was also a character in

804
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.920
this movie. Because you see the hills and you see

805
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.719
some of the filming and going over those steep hills

806
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.159
in Santra. If you've ever driven in San Francisco, you

807
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:37.760
can't forget the hills.

808
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:43.719
It's definitely just such a well known, iconic city to see.

809
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:44.519
Yeah.

810
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:48.079
Yeah, So, Matt, I am going to ask you, did

811
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:50.440
this groove through the decades.

812
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.320
I will answer you in the following way. When I

813
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.719
thought back on it, I thought no. But when I

814
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.639
rewatched it, I thought, yeah, yea, this still holds up.

815
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.280
This is a great movie and it doesn't really make

816
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.360
you cringe. It's great to think about sort of the

817
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.599
time in which it came out, But in watching it

818
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:13.760
again in modern I was like, I'm at the edge

819
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.960
of my seat because I couldn't remember everything that happened,

820
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:17.440
and I got a little mixed up on some of

821
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.400
the other ones. I'm like waiting for something to happen,

822
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.920
and it happened in a different movie.

823
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.159
But it was very enjoyable, So I think it holds up. Yeah,

824
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.320
I have to agree. My experience is very similar. It

825
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.159
was a long time since I have seen this, and

826
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.800
I was really glad that it showed up on our list. However,

827
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.519
I was thinking after watching French Connection and knowing that

828
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.599
this is more of a not to be derogatory. It's

829
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.440
more of a popcorn movie. It's more entertaining, it's easier

830
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:48.920
to digest. It hit me that Dirty Harry established the

831
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:54.199
blueprint of the renegade cop archetype. In fact, it set

832
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.599
up the entire serial killer as the bad guy. And

833
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.800
you can see in movies such as Lethal Weapon you

834
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:04.719
can see it, and Die Hard you can see it.

835
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.920
In forty eight Hours. Heck, you can even see a

836
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:11.440
very funny version of Harry Callahan in Beverly Hills Cop

837
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:15.039
with Axel Foley. And of course I cannot forget to

838
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.239
mention marrying Cobretti from Cobra, which again is another great

839
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.360
role by Sylvester Stallone.

840
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.760
It was a great movie. It was fun to sort

841
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:27.920
of take a trip back. And again, like I said,

842
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:29.920
I was ten years old, so I did not see

843
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.960
this in the movie theaters. I saw the others in

844
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.639
the movie theaters. I'm pretty sure, because they came out

845
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:38.320
in following years. I was already a big Clint Eastwood

846
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:42.039
fan even before that because of those spaghetti westerns and

847
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.639
my brother. But they would come on the TV. This

848
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.760
is even before VCR. They'd come on the TV and

849
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.039
we'd have to watch them and it was funny. So

850
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.880
he loved the Three Stooges. He still loves the Three Stooges.

851
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.559
Anytime the Three Stooges were on, we watch them Saturday

852
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.960
morning in black and white.

853
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:01.079
And I agree, I am always up for the Three Stooges.

854
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.480
I think that's going to wrap up our episode on

855
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.599
Dirty Harry. Thank you Matt for once again joining me,

856
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.840
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explore another film from that decade and.

869
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:54.239
The guys who me and mister Smith and mister Wesson

870
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.840
or something like that. I didn't remember that. Do you

871
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.079
remember what scene that was?

872
00:45:58.480 --> 00:45:59.960
Actually? That was from a different movie.

873
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.079
Oh is it? Are we recording now,