March 11, 2026

The Last Detail (1973) – Jack Nicholson’s Profane 70s Road Movie

The Last Detail (1973) – Jack Nicholson’s Profane 70s Road Movie
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Jack Nicholson is given one simple job: escort a young sailor to prison. But the trip north becomes something far stranger — and far more human.

In this episode of The Cinematic Flashback Podcast, Chuck and Matt return to 1973 to revisit The Last Detail, the Hal Ashby–directed road movie starring Jack Nicholson, Otis Young, and Randy Quaid. Nicholson plays Navy signalman Billy “Badass” Buddusky, a lifer assigned to escort young sailor Larry Meadows to the naval brig after Meadows receives an astonishing sentence: eight years in prison for attempting to steal $40 from a charity box.

As Buddusky and Mule Mulhall transport Meadows up the East Coast toward Portsmouth Naval Prison, the journey turns into a reluctant attempt to give the kid one last taste of life before the system closes in. Along the way the hosts explore the film’s production history, the famously profanity-filled screenplay by Robert Towne, and how Ashby’s humanistic filmmaking style turns what could have been a simple escort story into a character-driven road movie.

Chuck and Matt also discuss Nicholson’s performance, Randy Quaid’s surprisingly powerful early role, and how the film balances comedy, tragedy, and social commentary about military bureaucracy and justice. Plus:

  • Why Meadows’ eight-year sentence for $40 drives the entire film
  • The chemistry between Nicholson, Otis Young, and Randy Quaid
  • Early appearances by future stars like Gilda Radner, Carol Kane, and Nancy Allen
  • The film’s episodic road-trip structure across Washington, New York, and Boston
  • The famous melted-cheese hamburger scene
  • And, of course… Did it groove or lose its beat?
Join us as we revisit The Last Detail (1973) — a profane, funny, and unexpectedly poignant road movie from one of the defining filmmakers of the 1970s.

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True.

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What the chief said Meadow is about You're getting eight

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years in a dishonorable discharge for stealing forty dollars. I

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didn't get enough forty dollars.

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Didn't get it, they called me right while I was

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trying to lift it from the box.

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I didn't get it.

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You're gonna tell me they gave you eight years and

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a d D for forty dollars and you didn't even

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get it.

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Boy, they really stuck it to him, didn't they. Ye

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old for sure I did when they really stuck it

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to you, kid, Yeah, yes, sir, Stick it in.

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And break it off.

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Welcome to the Cinematic Flashback Podcast. Get ready to hop

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into the wayback machine as we journey through the wild, bold,

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and unforgettable films of the nineteen seventies. Each episode, we

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break down a classic movie or a forgotten jim seeing

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how to performed then and now, and wrapping things up

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by asking did a group of the decades or did

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it lose its feat?

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I am your host, Chuck Bryant.

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And today we are reviewing hal Ashby's The Last Detail

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from nineteen seventy three, starring Jack Nicholson, Otis Young and

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Randy Quaid and joining me on short patrol duty is

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Matt Sargent. Hey, buddy, do you like your cheese melted

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on your burger?

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Chuck? You always felt my cheese?

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Well, it's just as easy to get it like you

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like it? See was that so hard? That was my

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very bad Jack Nicholson had as it was recognizable. Hey,

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welcome to March. March is our road movie month, and

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we will feature today's film, The Last Detail, and the

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next episode with Scarecrow. I don't know about you, but

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I love road movies. There really good vehicles. See what

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I did there? That tell a story about getting to

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some destination, and really the journey is where we see

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the themes of growth or change. Do you have any

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favorite road movies?

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I like a good road movie, but to be honest,

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I might need a little more action like Mad Max.

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Mad Max, that would have been a great road movie

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to put in. I think every Thanksgiving we always watch planes, trains,

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and automobiles.

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I know you've seen that one, right, I have. I have,

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and I do like that movie, but it is it

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is a bit of a tragedy when it comes down

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to it. Well, maybe all all good comedies are.

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It is a great comedy and once Steve Martin gets

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to that destination and he realized that John Candy has

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no destination. Even though I've seen it a million times,

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it gets me every single time. And today's movie is

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somewhat like that, and that the journey is completely the

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story and the ending is well, we'll get to that.

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But this was my first time watching it.

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How about you? This wasn't my first time, but I'll

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be honest with you, I did not remember how the

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movie ended, so for me, it was almost like watching

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it for the first time. That's good.

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It's getting a fresh reaction from you today. Who do

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we have talking to us? We have a review from

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our Facebook page. We need to remember to check on

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those reviews when we get them. Oh yeah, Please help

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to annoy your friends and internet friends by talking about

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us non stop. This one is short and sweet and

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to the point. Christy Hood writes, if you love movies,

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this podcast is an absolute must follow. Thanks Christy for

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taking a moment to post your comment, which is a

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clear statement and call to action. I like it, and

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I will say it again. Go ahead and become the

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annoying one topic person who can't stop telling the world

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about our little podcast.

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Christy.

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Obviously, we love seventies movies and we hope that we

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give you some new films to check out. Before we

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get into the production details of the last detail, we

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do need to take a quick break.

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What the hell do you do? Kill the old man?

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He live.

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Trying to lift the polio contribution box? Yeah, polio boxes.

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The old man's old lady's favorite do gooder projects.

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Where are we going to fortunate label?

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Good duty?

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For you guys.

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They're gonna get him there, all right, but first they

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got to take care of a few details along the way.

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Okay, but you're the launch of them.

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I consider myself in jeopardy for you.

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Man understands in jeopardy he's a person that went taking

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him to the jail house.

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And you have a tendency to project that.

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He's just trying to show the kid a good time.

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You know what I mean, You can't have a good time.

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They ain't get him.

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Let me tell you how it is, Milk. We've got

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a friend here that we'd like to do a favor for.

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He's going on a trip.

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It's just him, just him, what.

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Kind of party after, So don't worry about a thing.

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I'm hustling this guy, I understand. I got him write

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where I want. Well, maybe he's tuskling you. Oh yeah,

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maybe he is. But this is not the time to

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argue about it, because if I don't, we don't leave

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New York. Yes, hope, we're going to a party. Yeah, huh,

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it's gonna be the big with him, Meadows, I gotta

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dealers get rid of it. So we look and creep there,

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and we got these three chicks, all of ourselves, doing

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a man's job talking the ships.

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Yoda. He looks like a big thing with known.

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Watch out for children.

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He sure is having a good time there is.

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And you said it wasn't animate. H all right? What

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are they doing? This man's navy everything they can?

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Would like to drink atotion that man Suberman and the

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human torch.

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And that was the trailer for the last detail, Matt,

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we are in our spoiler free territory. But before we

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get into the weeds, could you give us a back

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of the box description of the last detail and let

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the listeners know what to expect.

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Sure, Chuck. This film was directed by Hal Ashby and

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written by Robert Town. This gem of a film stars

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Jack Nicholson in in nineteen seventy three Best Actor Academy

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Award nominated performance as Bideski, a street tough sailor. When

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he is tasked with escorting a charge actor Randy Quaid

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to naval prison, Bideski decides they're never going to make

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it unless he and his partner Otis Young show the

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Young screw up one last good Time. The Last Detail

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was released on December twelfth, nineteen seventy three. Robert Town,

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whom we last discussed in our Chinatown episode, wrote the

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screenplay based on the novel by Darryl Paniskin, who also

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wrote Cinderella Liberty, which was also turned into a film

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starring James Kahn. The Last Detail was directed by Hal Ashby.

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As You Said Last Night, matt I rented the twenty

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eighteen documentary film called How Good Documentary Highly Recommended. In

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the nineteen seventies, he directed seven hit movies, including The Landlord, Harold,

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and Maud, The Last Detail, Shampoo, Bound for Glory, Coming

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Home starring Jane Fonda, who we last talked about, include

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and Being There starring Peter Sellers. Countless people have recommended

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to us that we should review Harold and Maud, including

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your co worker Jeff Banano and my co worker Aaron MULLINEX.

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We might need to try to get that one on

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the listing of ones to see. I agree.

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So Ashby started out learned this last night. He started

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out as many great seventies directors did. He started out

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as a film editor, and he worked closely with Norman Jewison,

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notably in the Heat of the Night, and it earned

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Ashby his only Academy award, the willow Is how.

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Ashby had to repeat words of a very dear friend

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of mine last year when he picked up his Oscar.

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I only hope that we can use all of our

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talents and creativity towards peace and love. Thank you.

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The last detail was well received in nineteen seventy three,

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and today it holds a solid eighty seven percent for

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both the critic and audience of scores on Rotten Tomatoes.

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Robert Town finished the screenplay in nineteen seventy But I

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don't know how it's to say this. It contained too

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much profanity to be shot as written.

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I I take thirty cents worth of beer and a glass,

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and the same as shipmates here. It don't work me

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no more.

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Let me see your ideas.

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How come?

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Because it's kidding over.

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Loss.

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It loses license for sure.

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If I see that, I'm going to kick you around

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the block for drill man.

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You tried and our call the short patrol.

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I am the sure patrol. I am sure patrol.

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Give this man a beer. I don't want to bear anything.

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You have a beer, man, you like one?

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get Town to tone it down because in the first

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seven minutes there's something like three hundred and forty two

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f bombs. But we know about the Hayes Code being

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replaced by movie ratings. Suddenly the standards for foul language

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relaxed or it got moved into a certain rating right,

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and the profanity was left in. Town stated that there

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was so much profanity because this is how people talk

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when they're powerless. And in this case, you know, you

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have Jack Nicholson and Otis Young's character. They're powerless against

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the machinations of the Navy. This is the only way

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that they talk. So Bodusky and Mohall, they don't agree

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with Randy Quay jail sentence, but they really have no

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legal ways to help him. The swearing isn't just for color,

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It is frustration. The guys see this injustice clearly, and

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the only power left of them is to complain.

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You know what's funny is, until we kind of started

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talking about how much swearing was in the movie, I

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didn't really notice it because so early in my career

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I developed software and did deployment so that software for

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the Navy. So I worked closely with your senior chiefs

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and your chiefs and your enlisted guys. And I think

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that's part and parcel for any of the armed services,

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and maybe most strongly in the Navy. I don't know

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our listeners can weigh in on that. Probably some Army

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guys or Air Force guys might weigh in say in

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the same thing. But I will tell you that at

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one point in my career I washed the coffee pot

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in the chiefs mess. I had up to that point

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never heard so many swear words strung together in my life,

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and I was just a young kid out of college going, man,

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that coffee pot looks disgusting. It. I'm going to be

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a nice guy and watch it and let me tell

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you what that is the wrong thing to do. No,

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I've I've heard tales of this. I mean you've always

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heard swears like a sailor. This film gives you a

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clear demonstration of swearing like a sailor, is sure, especially

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from from Jack Nicholson. And part of this is also,

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I mean, it goes back to the eighteenth century, you know,

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age of sail You know, your average what they called

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a British tar Your average sailor on a British ship

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was a pretty rough character and their language was, you know,

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sometimes a mixed pigeon from people from all over the world,

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but it always had a large number of swear words

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in it. So I think you're right. Part of it

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is showing this utter frustration. It also shows sort of

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at one point described themselves as navy lifers, so they're

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kind of like, hey, this is our one way to

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kind of thumb our nose at the system that we

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really can't do anything about. And at one point even

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the character Mule talks about how the navy was best

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thing that ever happened to him, got him out of

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the town he lived in. And it's very low key

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on that. But I think we've all worked at jobs

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where maybe we're a little frustrated and it comes out

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in the language. So it didn't really bother me much.

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things that we have seen in our film reviews where

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we're like, whoa, this must have been really, maybe it

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wasn't as shocking. Maybe people are just saying, hey, look,

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system was being used. This is a movie that was

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intended for adults to see. It's adult subject matter, it's

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adult comedy in some parts, and it's adult serious things.

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And that's one of the things we were just going

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to talk about is you know the sentence that Meadows

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gets yeah for stealing forty dollars, he loses his pay,

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demoted to E one, which is the very lowest you

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can get demoted to. He's ultimately going to get a

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dishonorable discharge after serving eight years in the naval prison

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at Portsmouth, New Hampshire, which is evidently pretty rough placed.

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go to prison. So he's going to serve a pretty

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tough sentence for stealing forty dollars. It seems excessive. Yeah,

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I think that's what hal Ashby was really trying to

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drive home, and as we learned later, he didn't ever

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even get the forty dollars. Yeah, that was one of

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the most ridiculous parts is that they quote quote caught

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him before he actually got the money out of the box.

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And unfortunately for Randy quads character Meadows he's stealing from

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the Polio Charitable donation box, which happens to be the

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base commander's wife's charity.

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That she is responsible for.

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Now Randy Quaits character is being charged above and beyond

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by the base commander.

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it was a person with absolutely no power, an enlisted guy.

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The person who was defending him wasn't really up to snuff. Clearly,

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it's just a machine that's running, and I think that's

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part of the whole thing, is that you're just a

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cog in this wheel. To me, the whole part of

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the movie where these guys go, well, we're getting per

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diem every day to take them, so let's not get

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there as fast as possible. And there's nobody really saying, hey,

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this should take you two days to get up and

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two days to get back. As somebody is saying, well,

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just put in for your money. How long it takes

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you know, And they take basically the slowest way they

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can compare so they can have all this pret d

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M and stuff. So it's a tragedy, but it's kind

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of the whole impetus for the whole movie. So we

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have some pretty big stars in this movie and some

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people that we never get to see again.

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Yeah, and first we have Jack Nicholson as Signalman first Class, Billy, Badass, Badusky.

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Bodusky always wanted to call me badass.

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Last time we talked about Nicholson was in Chinatown. He

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is in my opinion on his game here. This is

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a preview of the Jack to come. He turned down

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a role in the Godfather to be in this role.

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This could be one of my favorite roles for Jack Nicholson,

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although I am still really partial to his role in Chinatown.

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What were your thoughts on Nicholson in this film.

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Let me put it into the right kind of word. Yeah,

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And I'm talking to our audience here. I'm not trying

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to say that it wasn't a great performance. It was

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a great performance. I think Jack Nicholson inhabited this role

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as good as any actor probably could. My beef comes

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when you sort of want to know more about this

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character and you're left confused. I found it a little

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hard to follow and not very convincing. Was he really

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street tough because in some parts he looked like he

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was just bluster but really didn't have a lot to

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back it up with. When someone insists on their own nickname,

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that's always a red flag. It means that they didn't

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actually earn it right. They want that It's not somebody

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like he goes around getting into fights and he's a badass.

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It's like, Hey, that's my name, and I think people

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should call me badass. So that's what I'm going to use.

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And so to me, there was a whole wealth of

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things that could have been explored about that character that

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weren't explored. Not Jack Nicholson's fault, but it only went

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so far. That's sort of my problem.

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Fair Enough, I think the badass nickname was one he

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completely concocted for himself. He definitely seems to be more

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bark than bite. Sure, both he and Otis Young's characters.

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I believe that they are six or east seven, so

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they're almost at the top of the mid level ranks

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before they get into the senior So these guys had

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been in for a while. A fresh second lieutenant in

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the Marines does not intimidate them because they know the

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system better than he does. He is definitely a lot

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of bark in this film. I think to balance Badusky's bark,

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we have Otis Young as gunner mates first class Richard

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Mule Mulehall a.

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Man, Mulhall, mull Hall.

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Understand, Yeah, listen, man call me Mule.

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Everybody else you sure, kay sure.

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I think without Mohall, the movie really doesn't work because

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it almost makes Bodesky unbearable. I love how so often

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you talk about a character needs a foil, right, like

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in The Deer Hunter, Michael needed Stan otherwise Michael would

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almost be unbearable without someone to focus his intensity. And

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I think Otis Young kind of plays it, but he's

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not despicable like Stan was.

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I really like how Young portrayed Mule, And the counterpoint

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to Mule is if you watch that character calling him

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mule was one hundred percent on brand, right, How's that

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He's tough, he's quiet, he just buckles down and does

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what needs to be done. It's pretty clear that in

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his career people started calling a mule, probably initially because

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of his last name and then later because of the

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characteristics he showed. So that was to me a counterpoint

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of two nicknames that you kind of pick up on.

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One the guy's trying to get you to use the

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badass diick name, and the other one is call me

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mule because that's what everybody calls me. You don't have

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to He didn't have to say it more than once, right, right, right.

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I just thought Otis Young, he was a great actor.

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in this role. There was actually another actor cast, but

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other actors who wanted to play him was Bud Court,

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who was in Mash. He was a young Corman that

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Frank Burns was antagonizing. He also played Harold in Harold

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and Maud. Also Robert Unglan, who I always have to

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remember is not Freddy Krueger. But that's what he's best

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known for. Rupert Cross was actually cast to play Mulehall,

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but just as the filming was about to go into production,

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Cross received the news that he had diagnosed with terminal cancer.

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Ashby postponed production for a week. Cross decided that he

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didn't want to do the film. Just another tragic case

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of where we have actors who are involved in films,

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are about to be in big roles. You know, life happens.

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That was when they cast Otis Young to play Moha. Well,

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like I said, I thought he did a wonderful job.

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Let's talk about Larry Meadows played by Randy Quaid. I

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was blown away by Randy Quaid in this film. First

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of all, I had no idea that Randy Quaid was

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making movies back in nineteen seventy two seventy three when

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this film came out. He was so innocent in this film,

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almost naive. What did you think of six foot four

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Randy Quaid in this film?

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I thought it was a stroke of genius to cast

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him in this role because he was able to sort

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of give this baby Hughey esque innocence and goofy. It

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was great and it was funny and it was also

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at other parts, you know, poignant. I think we'll talk

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about that a little bit later, you know. But you know,

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I honestly can't think a lot of times you pose

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these questions to me before we do these, by the

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who would you think is in a different role, you know,

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who could have played this role, possibly better or worse?

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And I, you know me, I rarely come up with

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an idea for somebody who do. But I really thought

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about this one, and I thought about this one, and

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I honestly can't imagine anyone else playing that role. I mean,

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he was really very perfect for it. But in the book,

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I think the physical description of Meadows is probably not

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a six' four, dude but maybe just a normal sized

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guy with you, know maybe some of the same. Qualities

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But Randy quaid being so big and so much bigger

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than the two guys that were charged with guarding, him

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it was right off the. Bat it's a physical, hilarity you,

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know because it's just so.

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Funny oh sure it does looks, Well, Clark.

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Thank ceddie enhances your holiday.

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Spirit Dear, Catherine, Betty, oh the.

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House is, gorgeous, Clerk, EDDY i hope you didn't do

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this all on our Count clark, Kid come on out

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here and see What Uncle clark's done to the.

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House if you only Know Randy quaid from The Christmas

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vacation And Vacation, films you owe it to yourself to

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watch this, film if for nothing more but to Watch

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Randy quaid play someone that when you're, done you're just

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you're gonna be amazed and you'll walk. Away you may

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like this, film you may not like this, film but

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you will say That Randy quaid was.

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Amazing, yeah it really makes you think that that, family

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The quaid, family has some serious acting chaps in. It

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what's in the water they? DRINK i mean, really it's

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nice to see because he did Play he does play

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a fuy. THOUGH i mean even in THE i MEAN

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i laughed so hard WHEN i think about Those vacation

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films and some of the, lines they're just they're. Awesome

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they're so, funny And Randy craid delivers some of these.

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Lines it's just. Hilarious there are very many funny parts

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of this. Film it is that in a lot of,

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ways it's sort of a NonStop comedy to some, extent

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with an undertone of, tragedy WHICH i think is probably

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the classic definition of a. Comedy you, know it's not

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funny unless there's sort of a seriousness that makes it

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worth paying attention. To there were some other.

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Actors they were a, minor BUT i did want to

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talk about them that showed up in this. Film my

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favorite Was Carol, caine who played the young prostitute in

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the last actor of the. Film you'll Know Carol kane

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from another Fun christmas movie Called, scrooged where she plays

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the ghost Of Christmas. Past she's also in the Current

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Star Trek Strange New world series as the chief. Engineer

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what do you think of her And? Scrooge you gotta love.

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That, oh one of my favorite performances because it keeps

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bashing them, anymore hitting him and. Stuff it's just funny

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and it was just a very funny. Role and immediately

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soon AS i saw my wife AND i watched this

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film together and as soon as we saw, her we're, like,

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we you, know click click, click who is? It who is?

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It and then it then it popped in my Head

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scrooged after we had thought about it for a little.

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While she's appeared in a few things over the years

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besides just scrooged in some other. You she's been in

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a bunch of. Things she has very unique. Voice. Usual

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the other one that we, saw they were in the

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chanting scene with the with the uh The buddhist, monks

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The buddhist light or whatever they. Were, yeah, yeah it

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Was Gilda. Radner Still? Radner what is she doing in?

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There and obviously she put her name on a list

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for extras and they called her. Up and she's such

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a unique looking, person such a wonderful, talent that it

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just shines, through you, know just even for a few

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instants on the, screen you can't miss.

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HER i will sit through And i'll watch. CREDITS i

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will admit that seventies credits are pretty easy to sit

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through because there are usually two or three, minutes not

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fifteen minutes of special. Effects and SO i Saw Gilda

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radner's name come, up AND i immediately had to go

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back and find where she was in the. Film SO

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i did a Little google cheating and then went back

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and saw. It and you're, right once you see, it

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you cannot unsee her.

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Before we go on to the next. ACTOR i just

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00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.200
want to make a point to what you were just,

460
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:49.799
describing which is one of the best parts of doing

461
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.799
seventies films like this is to look at the credits

462
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:58.519
and pick out names of early performances of some of

463
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.319
the biggest stars in the world. World it's so much

464
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:06.200
fun to see in the credits way, down you, know sort,

465
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:10.119
of you, know right before first key, grip the name

466
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.880
of sub superstar that we have, nowadays who just played

467
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:18.039
an extra or some, yeah barely talking, person and it's

468
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.599
it's that is the. Best one of the best parts

469
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.480
of watching these nineteen seventies films is to see those

470
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.680
people that went on to be huge.

471
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.079
Stars when we Watched Magnum, FORCE i mentioned that there

472
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:34.720
were two actors who were in The RoboCop, movie and

473
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.960
AS i was watching the, CREDITS i Saw Nancy allen's

474
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.599
name in the last. Detail she Plays Officer lewis In,

475
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.559
RoboCop and SO i had to go back. Again this

476
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.839
is WHEN i had to do a search on to

477
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:51.359
find a picture of, her because she is so young

478
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.200
THAT i would not have recognized.

479
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.599
Her HAD i not seen her name in the. Credits that's.

480
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.160
Funny, So, MATT i do want to talk about real

481
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.960
quickly before we wrap this section, up about the filming

482
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:05.559
locations so you AND i we live in Southeastern virginia

483
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.039
in a part that's known As Hampton. Roads it's comprised

484
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.839
of multiple, cities Including Virginia beach where you live AND i,

485
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.079
Work chesapeake WHERE i, live And, norfolk where you. WORK

486
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.400
i was surprised to learn that The Norfolk Naval base

487
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.599
was not shown in this. Film The navy did not

488
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.119
want to be associated with all of the swearing in

489
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.599
the film that today's sailor does not, swear so they

490
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.519
would not let them Use Norfolk naval Or Portsmouth, prison

491
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.200
and so they had to use locations In. Canada But

492
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.400
i'm going to swear to YOU i can't confirm or deny.

493
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.039
This i've looked And i've seen it both. Ways but

494
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.519
the outside of the bus station to me looks like

495
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.400
the old one that used to be On gramby And.

496
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.599
Monticello if you're, listening and if you know if this

497
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.480
was really the old bus, station write us let us,

498
00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:59.680
know because this might be a hill THAT i die.

499
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.720
ON i don't think there's any question it was that.

500
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.759
Place then that's not on The navy. Base that's just

501
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.240
A norfolk filming. Location and to be honest with, you

502
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.039
they could have pulled out a camera and done that

503
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.400
scene with or without any city, permission because there's not

504
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.720
a lot going, on some buses moving. Around it looked

505
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.279
like it was filmed at six o'clock in the morning or,

506
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.519
Something SO i don't think there's ANY i, mean, yes

507
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.200
a lot of the major scenes and the scenes on

508
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.960
what looked like a navy base would not have been

509
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.079
filmed On Norfolk Navy. Base but there's no reason why

510
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.359
it wouldn't have been in The norfolk bus. Station it

511
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.400
would be easy to do it, there you. Know AND

512
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.440
i think we looked at the pictures sort of from

513
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.640
the movie and, nowadays and the building, lines the buildings

514
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.200
line up. Exactly you, know they're new, things but the

515
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.079
actual framing of the building is exactly the. Same so

516
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.160
it looks so similar to. Me they're exactly the. Same

517
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.319
they just have different businesses in. Them so, yeah, NO

518
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.920
i think it's perfectly plausible that they might have filmed

519
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.440
part In norfolk and then gone, okay well let's take

520
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.720
it all up to this crazy base In. Canada they

521
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.759
show a lot of very cold weather at The navy,

522
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.279
base which you, Know i'll be honest with, you here

523
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.440
In norfolk And Virginia. Beach you, know we'll get a you,

524
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.079
know it's cold right now for a few, weeks but

525
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:20.920
isn't cold like they were portraying it in the. Movie

526
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.160
so clearly they were In canada during the winter filming

527
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.759
a lot of, this because it looked really cold the entire.

528
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.440
Time they look. Cold, YEAH i mean it was so.

529
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.079
Funny LIKE i, SAID i don't think there's any. QUESTION

530
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.720
i think that was one hundred percent. MATCH i think

531
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.359
that brings us to the point where we might have

532
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.119
another word from one of our possible sponsors and we'll

533
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:52.359
be right. Back, hey this Is matt And i'm.

534
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.240
Dark we're just out here riding our bikes circle in

535
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.519
the cold a sac talking about the, movies music AND

536
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.559
tv shows that we all love and, remember but just

537
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.759
as easily could have fallen by the wayside and been.

538
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.759
Forgotten these are the tales of creative, chaos last minute,

539
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.920
miracles and lightning strikes no one saw. Coming so settle

540
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.319
in because every legend has a, backstory and sometimes the

541
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.519
best one start by. Mistake this is where we talk

542
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.200
about and discuss the accidental.

543
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:32.839
Legends cheese melted in the for you sure.

544
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.240
The ain't melted at. All let's spend it. Back that's all.

545
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.359
Right send the thing bad those you're saying for, It

546
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.759
it's all, right, meadows have it the way you want?

547
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:47.559
It where.

548
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.799
Melted, cheese honest for the, chief would you thank, You.

549
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.000
Jush he the have it the way.

550
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.160
That you want to and welcome.

551
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.599
Back the last detail is currently streaming on Two be for,

552
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.519
free and it is available to rent at all of

553
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.319
the usual rental. Locations AND i want to let our

554
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.119
listeners know that if they want to see the, film

555
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.920
please go ahead and pause now and go watch. It

556
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.759
we're gonna wait for you until you finish, it because

557
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.680
we're moving into a section now where we're going to

558
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.880
discuss the, film and you, Know, matt there may be spoilers,

559
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.839
indvertently inadvertently, inadvertently.

560
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.480
Yeah, yeah but it, Happens.

561
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.599
OKAY i do want to describe the poster for this,

562
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.359
film BECAUSE i really like, it and it is just

563
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.319
this photo based one. Sheet, now one sheet is the

564
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.079
standard size of a movie, poster and it's featuring a

565
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.799
Shirtless Jack nicholson As Billy, bideski and he's wearing a sailor,

566
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.359
hat no, shirt holding a cigar and he's just looking

567
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.839
straight at, you almost challenging. You to the right is

568
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.680
written no exploitive. Symbols navy is going to give some

569
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:11.000
poor additional explative. Symbols kid eight years in the explative

570
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.079
brig without me taking him out for the time of

571
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.599
his explative. Life that's already telling you there's gonna be

572
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.680
a lot of language in this, film right on the

573
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.400
very poster before you go. In But, matt the premise

574
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:26.480
is brutally.

575
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.039
Simple we have two.

576
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:33.720
Lifers they're given brigchaser. Detail, now a brigchaser is a

577
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.960
assignment that is carried out where they were going to

578
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.960
escort someone either who's either in prison to some kind

579
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.920
of appointment or they're in this, case they're escorting a

580
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.119
junior enlisted to the. Brig what immediately stands out Isn't meadow's,

581
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:56.720
mistake but rather the wildly disproportionate punishment forty dollars eight

582
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.440
years disarmable.

583
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.279
Discharge, well the, movie he does a good job of showing,

584
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.359
that showing what the audience considers an extensive sentence for

585
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.760
what should have been a, misdemeanor but then steadily Shows

586
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:14.039
meadows constantly stealing stuff somewhat in comic, relief but slowly

587
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.559
showing us That meadows has a compulsion and what some

588
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.920
professionals might call. Kleptomania and this is further solidified by

589
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.239
him telling the trouble he got into back home with.

590
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:30.320
Shoplifting so you, KNOW i think the injustices is absolutely

591
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:33.880
understood by the, audience but then it's actually even made

592
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:37.840
worse by realizing that sending this kid to prison for

593
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.880
eight years is not going to help his. Compulsion it

594
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.400
is sure a psychological. Problem he needs, help and this

595
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:48.559
was essentially a victimless crime because we find out later

596
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.000
he didn't even steal the forty, dollars he didn't even get.

597
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.039
It so the idea that he would have to go

598
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:59.760
serve eight years and dishonorably discharged when you, know maybe

599
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.880
a year in a psych institution with therapy might be

600
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:08.920
able to cure him of this compulsion because, CLEARLY i

601
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.679
mean we see through the film he steals anything he

602
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.000
can get his hands on for a good long. Time

603
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:15.199
once they're.

604
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.159
On the, train there is a scene Where meadows is

605
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:22.599
sleeping or, dozing and Both mule And bideski realize that

606
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.639
he has carrots that he's stolen off of an old

607
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.920
lady's shopping, cart stuffed up his. Sleeve they go to

608
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.840
to say something and it startles him and he wakes.

609
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:34.480
Up he DOESN'T i don't think he knows where he's

610
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.079
at or but he runs and so they have to

611
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.920
drag him back to his. CHAIR i think this is

612
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.679
where it starts to, change where they start to sympathize with.

613
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:46.199
Them when we start to learn more About, mule we

614
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.320
learn more About, bideski but we also learn About. Meadows

615
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:55.760
it's nearly indistinct unless you have subtitles because he's crying

616
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.199
AND i could not make it, Out but what he's

617
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.719
talking about in that scene is that he cannot help

618
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:08.199
himself but. Shoplift you, know he will steal, models and

619
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.280
he doesn't even know how to put a model. Together

620
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.519
he's always grabbing stuff that he doesn't really even care,

621
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:14.840
about or that he doesn't even.

622
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:16.679
Need he didn't need forty.

623
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.159
Dollars he had money in the bank until they made

624
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.400
him forfeit all of his pay and then, ultimately you,

625
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.320
know he's now broke as he's going into the brig

626
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:31.239
AND i think at this Point bodeski, Says, wow they

627
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.039
really stuck it to. You they stuck it in deep

628
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.159
and then they broke the handle. Off from that, point

629
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:41.760
they are sympathizing with this young eighteen year old whose

630
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.119
life is basically.

631
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.400
Over to some, EXTENT i still stick by my thing

632
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.360
is That bodeski needed this trip virtually as much As meadows.

633
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.920
Did AND i call back to the very beginning of the.

634
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:56.960
Film they're trying to Get. Bideski giddo talked to the

635
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:02.079
commanding officer and he's basically saying, no being very, disrespectful very.

636
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.440
REBELLIOUS i, mean he clearly doesn't seem like he's in

637
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.199
a good. Place so the initial plan is to try

638
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.079
to get the guy up there and then take his

639
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.679
pretty im and spend. It they make us. Shift but

640
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.880
at the same, time the plan of letting loose is

641
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.280
part Of biduski's plan all. Along but AGAIN i call

642
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:26.360
back to why there should be more reason Why bidski

643
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.920
needs to do. This something happened.

644
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.880
Well the rest of the. Film once we've established that

645
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.280
you know this injustice and quickly see that they're going

646
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.239
to show this kid the time of his.

647
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.000
Life and there's all.

648
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.480
These series of episodes as they are traveling up The eastern.

649
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.519
SEABOARD i think they first take a bus out Of.

650
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.880
Norfolk they hop on a train at some point and

651
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:52.920
they get off IN. Dc then they go To New,

652
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.159
york where they come across The buddhist, monks and then

653
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.880
they're In, boston and then eventually they're. Importsman for, me

654
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.159
my favorite had to be when they were In, washington

655
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.760
because this is, where, well they're just trying to get

656
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.320
something to. Eat meadows, ask, well do you think that

657
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.719
they will melt the cheese on the? Hamburger the hamburger

658
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.719
has cheese on, it but it's not. Melted Jack nicholson

659
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.280
tells them to go back and melt that cheese and

660
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:17.960
it's just as.

661
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.679
Easy but he Tells meadows to tell, them, yes he's

662
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.000
trying to toughen Up meadows for what's coming In. Portsmouth,

663
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.079
yeah which is really. Cool and then.

664
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.119
They go to get a belly full of. Beer he

665
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:30.480
almost thirty cents of a.

666
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:35.840
Beer. Hilarious that price just blew my. Mind that was so.

667
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.039
Funny and then the cans are, ACTUALLY i don't know

668
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.599
if you probably don't remember, them BUT i remember them

669
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.760
Getting not THAT i drank beer back, then BUT i

670
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.559
remember in the seventies going to the cooler and getting

671
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.320
a can of beer and giving it to my dad or.

672
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.800
Whatever oh, yeah and the cans were. Cans they were

673
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.840
like cans of, beans you. Know they were that kind of.

674
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.360
Metal they weren't this flimsy aluminum they have. Now, Right,

675
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.519
so in the old, days they used to show somebody

676
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.119
CRUSHING i think they should quin crushing a can of.

677
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.800
Beer, yeah well that was pretty.

678
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.079
Impressive it was hugely. Impressive nowadays it's a joke because

679
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.880
once it's, empty there's nothing to. It but back then

680
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.920
you were crushing an actual tin can of beer with

681
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.400
a FlipTop that came out and then then cut your.

682
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.079
Foot but, yeah it was funny to see in some of.

683
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:23.639
THAT i will say not every stop was fun because

684
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.159
they make a stop to go See meadows's mom and

685
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.880
they make the trek out to her. House they don't

686
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.920
know if she's. There this is before the day cell

687
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.519
phones or. Whatnot they get to her, house she's not.

688
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.400
There what's? Wrong we let the kid go up by.

689
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:40.880
Herself you could get. AWAY i don't get.

690
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:42.679
Excited you like it ain't going?

691
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.719
Nowhere what makes you so sure we know? Him and

692
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:49.440
where we?

693
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:49.679
Where?

694
00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.440
There did.

695
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.519
You meadows ain't going nowhere without. Us so let me

696
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:08.639
tell you something about a kid Like. Meadows he's the

697
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.639
kind of guy he's going to the brig and secretly

698
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:16.639
he's probably glad on the. Outside too many things can

699
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.440
happen to, him all of it bad this, way the

700
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.639
worst parts already have it's probably.

701
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:26.760
Glad and it turns out his mom is gone for the.

702
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.079
Day they go back to her house and, say, hey

703
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.440
do you want to go in and wait, around and

704
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.599
they ultimately the door opens and you're kind of greeted

705
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.960
by WHAT i will just say is a very clear

706
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:45.239
indication of meadows, childhood which is not. Pleasant, yeah And

707
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.320
i'll just leave it at. That most of the rest

708
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.440
of the stops are fun and a little more lighthearted

709
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.440
and getting into mischief and also trying to Teach meadows

710
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:56.679
some life.

711
00:40:56.679 --> 00:41:01.559
Skills finally we get To new Am sure And meadows

712
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.920
says something, like, well you, know if it was, summer

713
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.760
we could have a picnic and then, boom there you.

714
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.360
Are you're out in the. Park it's freezing, cold snow

715
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.679
on the. GROUND i think this was actually filmed In

716
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.519
Hyde park And toronto during the.

717
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:18.039
Winter they were, really really.

718
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.880
Cold as you pointed out, Earlier bodusky just can't really

719
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.960
get anything quite. Right you. Know they go off and

720
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.239
they're they're gonna cook hot. Dogs but then they're talking

721
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.840
and they look around and again Meadows is is not

722
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.760
where he. Was he's off about a few hundred yards

723
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.840
and and he looks over At badusky and all of a,

724
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:44.440
sudden he starts giving him the flag. Signals you Hear

725
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:50.559
badusky translating It Bravo, Yankee Bravo yankee into message bye.

726
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:52.039
BYE i didn't catch it the first.

727
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.079
Time bye, bye bye.

728
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.320
Bye he takes off.

729
00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:58.920
Running it was.

730
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.599
Hilarious but they they do deliver him to the. Prison

731
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.880
they're not even given a moment to give him one last.

732
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:07.840
Goodbye they just take.

733
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:11.360
Him, YEAH i think the part of him running away

734
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:16.920
at the end was necessary because if he hadn't tried to,

735
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.000
ESCAPE i think it would have been really hard for

736
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.639
them to bring him to the. Prison SO i think

737
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:26.480
him trying to escape kind of stealed. Them, yeah and

738
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:28.400
you kind of wonder how these guys going to be

739
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.559
able to put it together to take him to the.

740
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.280
Prison it's, difficult.

741
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.119
Kind of LIKE i said, earlier with, planes, trains and.

742
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.360
Automobiles it's kind of a bittersweet.

743
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.840
Ending, yeah, So, Chuck i'll ask you this. Question does

744
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:47.480
the last detail still grove today or did it lose its?

745
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.159
Beat i'm going to tell YOU i had no idea

746
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.079
WHAT i was getting into WHEN i first started watching this.

747
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.920
Film at, FIRST i was a little bit worried about

748
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.880
the amount of profanity that this film is known. For

749
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.840
but like you, said, said it feels like it fit the.

750
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.880
Film it felt like it fit the. Character and after

751
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:12.679
learning and watching the How ashby, film he makes films about,

752
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:17.480
humans the human, condition and being decent, people and this

753
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.719
film fits into a Hel ashby. Film so, Yes meadows,

754
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:26.119
stole but the punishment turns a mistake into a life.

755
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:31.079
SENTENCE i really think That quade's performance is what really

756
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.639
sells this. Film it's his performance that sticks with. You for,

757
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.840
me it Grooves and what did you?

758
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.320
Think? MATT i don't disagree with what you're, saying AND i,

759
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.320
certainly AS i said, BEFORE i really Enjoyed Randy quaid's

760
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.760
performance on, here AND i will agree with you one hundred.

761
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.639
Percent if you are at all a fan Of Randy

762
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.920
quaid and you haven't seen this, film you will do

763
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.920
backflips because he does a great. Job, WELL i understand

764
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.000
the other points that you were, saying and that you

765
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.760
feel like It, Groves i'm going to disagree to, me.

766
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.360
Okay and remember we were talking about what it was

767
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.679
before and how it might be received. Nowadays So i'm

768
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.320
saying it's not that it didn't groove. THEN i think it,

769
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.960
did BUT i think today's film it's. Less and here

770
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.519
are my. Reasons the film moves too, slowly and to,

771
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:26.400
me it fails to really make the case that makes

772
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.440
me care about the characters, right and PARTICULARLY i care

773
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.480
About Randy. QUAID i just think there's a big hole

774
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:37.119
in The bodesky. CHARACTER i want to care about, him

775
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.880
AND i really. Don't, well the performances were. GOOD i

776
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.599
felt like there should have been more About bodeski's life

777
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.280
for us to care about. Him this trip seems like

778
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.360
something he needed as much As. Meadows but you never know.

779
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.639
Why you're kind of, left why is this so important to?

780
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.960
Him because it clearly is he's driving it the entire,

781
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.800
time and maybe he had a little brother that passed,

782
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.800
away maybe he had a family that he ever got to.

783
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.000
Know all of this would have been something that you

784
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.199
could have sunk your teeth into the. Character mule was

785
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.239
played perfectly and to me was the best performance of the,

786
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:14.559
movie maybe Behind quaid. OBVIOUSLY i just really liked his

787
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:21.079
portrayal of this steady dude who's faced the, world a

788
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.840
world where things might not have gone his. Way quaid

789
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.119
was a close second and really captured the toddler like

790
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.360
innocence of the. CHARACTER i, mean he did a great.

791
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.320
Job So i'll not say it grows. TODAY i think

792
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.559
it may have been ground baking in its, day BUT

793
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.840
i think today's, AUDIENCE i think you expect a little bit.

794
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.159
More and there you have.

795
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.880
It you, know we're going to disagree on this, one

796
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.000
BUT i am glad that we got a chance to

797
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.800
watch it and talk about it. Today so that just

798
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.199
about wraps it up for the last. Detail join us

799
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.000
next time as we continue this theme of road movies

800
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:02.880
With Jerry shatsburgh's criminally gotten nineteen seventy three Film, scarecrow

801
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:07.199
Starring Gene hackman And Al, pacino and coming In, april

802
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.400
we got another pair of, Films The, getaway WHICH i

803
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:14.119
watched this, week Starring steve McQueen And ali. McGrath this

804
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.320
is A Sam peckinpaw, film AND i invite you to

805
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.519
go and do a little reading On peck And paw

806
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.719
to get his style from like The Wild. Bunch and

807
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.760
THEN i pulled one of our movies. OUT i pulled

808
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:29.559
out five easy. Pieces i'm going to reschedule that later

809
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.280
because on The facebook group The movies of The, seventies

810
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.639
they were talking About Charlie varrick Starring Walter. Mathow after

811
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.559
Our pelham one two three, EPISODE i was just so

812
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:43.639
gung home On Walter.

813
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.199
Mathol, oh, yeah he's.

814
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.119
Amazing And Charlie varrick is directed By Dirty harry Director Don.

815
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.679
SIEGEL i think we both liked the First Dirty harry,

816
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.639
film AND i Think Don siegel had a lot to

817
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:54.880
do with.

818
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.800
That, Yeah So i'm looking forward to watching all of. These,

819
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.159
Yeah i'm with you on What i'm looking forward to

820
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.360
watching them BECAUSE i haven't SEEN i don't think here's the.

821
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.880
DEAL i don't think i've Seen The, Scarecrow The, getaway

822
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.639
Or Charlie. Varrick so this is gonna be great for.

823
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.760
Me this is all new stuff for, Me so it's first,

824
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.480
Impressions so good. Stuff all, Right, well thank you listeners

825
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.840
for tuning. In let us know what you thought about

826
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.079
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827
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828
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.440
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00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.519
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831
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.440
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832
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.039
machine to the seventies and explore another film from that.

833
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.239
Decade we'll see, you, then see you.

834
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:54.280
Then welcome to the wonderful world of Kid. Sing it's

835
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:56.320
yours