July 15, 2026

White Line Fever (1975): Jan-Michael Vincent's Forgotten Trucker Classic

White Line Fever (1975): Jan-Michael Vincent's Forgotten Trucker Classic
White Line Fever (1975): Jan-Michael Vincent's Forgotten Trucker Classic
Cinematic Flashback
White Line Fever (1975): Jan-Michael Vincent's Forgotten Trucker Classic
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Season 2
White Line Fever (1975) helped launch the wave of 1970s trucker movies, arriving at the height of the CB radio craze, the 1970s energy crisis, and America's fascination with life on the open road.

In this episode of the Cinematic Flashback Podcast, Chuck and Matt review White Line Fever (1975), starring Jan-Michael Vincent, Slim Pickens, L.Q. Jones, Kay Lenz, and Don Porter. Directed by Jonathan Kaplan, who got his start under legendary producer Roger Corman, this low-budget action drama became a surprise box office hit by blending western storytelling, blue-collar drama, and spectacular practical truck stunts.

Join Chuck and Matt as they explore the production history of White Line Fever, Jan-Michael Vincent's rise as one of the 1970s' hottest young stars, Roger Corman's influence on a new generation of filmmakers, and why this overlooked cult classic connected with audiences despite mixed critical reviews. Along the way, they discuss independent truckers, corporate corruption, the film's memorable stunt work, and how it paved the road for later trucking classics like Convoy (1978).

Whether you remember White Line Fever from its original theatrical run or you're discovering it for the first time, this episode explores why the film became a surprise hit in 1975 and why it remains an important piece of 1970s movie history. If you enjoy classic action films, movie history, Roger Corman's filmmaking legacy, or forgotten cult classics, climb into the Blue Mule and join us for another trip through the seventies.

Subscribe for more deep dives into the greatest films of the 1970s as Cinematic Flashback continues its Keep on Truckin' series celebrating the movies that defined a decade.

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Welcome to the Cinematic Flashback Podcast. Get ready to hop

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into the wayback machine as we journey through the wild, bold,

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and unforgettable films of the nineteen seventies. Each episode we

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break down a classic movie or forgotten jim seeing how

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we've performed then and now, and wrapping things up by

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asking did a group of the decades or that lose

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its speed? I am your host, Chuck Bryan, and today

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we are reviewing Jonathan Kaplan's nineteen seventy five film White

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Line Fever, starring Jan Michael Vinson, l Q Jones, Kaylyns

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and Slim Pickens. This is our first film in our

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Keep On Truck and Month, where we are looking at

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two films from a very niche, very seventies genre known

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as truck'sploitation that accompanied the Cebee radio craze of the

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nineteen seventies Breaker Breaker. Matt, what's your twenty? I'm on your.

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Six Fox one armed. Oh no, wait, that's the rong lingo.

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I mean, I'm in the rocking chair, Matt.

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Welcome back. How you been.

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I've been well. I've been well, just busy, lots of

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stuff going on. You went on a fishing trip recently, right?

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I did.

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I went trout fishing last weekend and I caught a couple.

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It's the most beautiful place in the world up in

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Pennsylvania near State College. It's sort of on a preserve

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on a river there. Really it's almost a creek, they

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call it. It's Spruce Creek, but it's loaded loaded with

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trout and we do catch and release. But we had

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a good time.

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Great. So we're starting off our month looking at a

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very interesting artifact of the nineteen seventies, the CBE radio

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crazed did your family have a CBE radio.

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but I did get a hold of a walkie talkie

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that was on the CBE radio bands. If you remember,

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there was kind of the main band. I think it

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was channel nine or nineteen or something like that. So,

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oh yeah, I'm an old CB like that. So the

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one time I got like enough guts to talk, some

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guy responded to me and was talking to me, and

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it was pretty uncomfortable.

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I was young, so my voice hadn't changed.

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Little boy, why ride in my truck.

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I turned it off and never talked on it again.

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You learned a very valuable lesson that day, Yes, very much.

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or something something like that. It just seemed like he

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would use it to listen to other truckers or other

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people up ahead, giving warnings about police and traffic coming

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up ahead. What was really fun was at my grandmother's house,

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she had a police band scanner. When you're out in

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the country on a Saturday night and you know there's

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no television to be had, listening to that radio was

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a lot of fun, and you pick up a lot

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of the police codes because she had a little police

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code cheat sheet so that she could tell what they

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were saying when they would start talking out the codes

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over the airways. That was fun. I had the same experience.

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Everybody I knew that has CBEE radio rarely talked on

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set of cars, and then they would just go to

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some random channel and then talk between themselves that anyway,

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it was really the domain of truckers, people who made

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their living on the road. Basically, it was ways for

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the old days that people would tell you that there's

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a speed trap ahead. Yeah, but more than once I

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heard of someone saying, no, it's clear, And it turns

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people it was absolutely clear while they were set up

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for a speed trap.

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Wow, good times, good times. Well, Matt, who do we

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have speaking to us this week?

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We have a listener, Steven sad fifty four, and he

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left us a five star review on Apple saying great stuff.

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He goes on to say, and I will say stick

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with me here because he had quite a lot to say.

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And I think both Chuck and I will blush with this,

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so and I quote. The sixties brought about great change

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in music and culture. All of that flowed into the seventies,

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affecting the other great art form, storytelling in the form

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of motion pictures. The films of the seventies brought more

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realism and authenticity, more relatable, emotional depth. Substance was created

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that left you leaving the theater thinking more about the

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people you saw and how it might relate to you.

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All of this brought forward through the imagination of young,

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unknown fire brands, actors and directors that are now household names.

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Chuck and Matt do more than just discuss these celluloid gems.

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They relate how some of these films affected them personally,

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how others are touchstones, landmarks of events of their lives.

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Insight and details of production are discussed, history of the

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stories that became the movie, the tricks of the trade

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that made these films feel also real. The work, the time,

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the joy and the pain of the actors bringing these

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stories to life are Chuck and Matt experts. That's subjective.

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Though all have had movies in their lives in one

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form or another, they know a lot critics. They just

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offer their opinion, never marginalizing a guest negative views of

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a particular film. Do they love seventies film? That's the point.

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Some guests fondly remember those days they live through. Others

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want to share their new experience with others, So hell,

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yeah they love the seventies. Wow, yeah, that was a

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nice review. I'm sorry if I bumbled through some of that.

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But do you know someone who does not know about

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seventies movies? Are they sad and one dimensional? Do people

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laugh and point their figures saying they have probably never

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seen Logan's Run or understand that there are not enough cats.

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They need to be more like Stephen Sad fifty four,

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And I have the answer for them, The Cinematic Flashback Podcast.

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Have them listen to two episodes a week, and in

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no time they will be the life of the party.

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Always included in deep discussion and a veritable font of

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seventies movie trivia and anecdotes. Do not let your friends suffer.

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Get them on a regimen of the Cinematic Flashback Podcast.

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Well, you know, I have a fever, a white line fever,

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and the only cure is more seventies movies.

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Oh Man, that's funny. Steven Sad pointed out, we're not experts.

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We're just a couple of guys who love seventies movies.

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One of us is old enough to have basically lived

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through many of them in the movie theaters, and one

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of them's a little bit younger but definitely more dedicated.

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That'd be you, Chuck. So okay, thank you. We do

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like to prepare and do our due diligence. And when

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I say our due diligence, I really mean Chuck, because

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let's be honest, I usually just ride along and do voices.

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Less. Let's move to our segment. How did this movie happen? Matt.

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To understand why a movie like Whiteline Fever connected with audience,

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we've got to set the scene in America in nineteen

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seventy five. So Vietnam had just ended, Watergate, had wrecked

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trust in the government. There were gas shortages. I've been

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at two gas landes already this morning. This morning, I

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longed you wait for the first thing in both lines.

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Oh wow, And I'm on a gas and that new

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fifty five mile per hour speed limit was making nobody happy.

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Correctly, we've been forced to speak off from the safety aspect,

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the new law represents a departure from that concept. The

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reduced speed limit and our enforcement of that limit are

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a measure to help alleviate a very critical furou shortage

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in this country.

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And that's the America. Whiteline Fever was made for. Director

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Jonathan Kaplan had graduated from NYU's Film School, where Martin

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Scorsese was one of his peers and influences. After catching

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the attention of Roger Corman, Kaplan found himself learning the

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filmmaking business the Corman way, which is to say, fast, cheap,

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low budget exploitation films. Corman had a reputation for finding

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talented young filmmakers just giving them that chance to direct.

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Directors such as Francis for Coppola, Martin Scorsese, Peter Bogdanovitch,

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Joe Dante, James Cameron, all of them at some point

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passed through the Corman system. And I have to recommend

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to you, Matt the book Roger Corman wrote called How

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I Made one Hundred Movies in Hollywood and Never lost

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a dime. This is a great book on the business

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side of making a movie in Hollywood, and it's incredibly entertaining.

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Because Roger Corman is just that kind of storyteller. My

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favorite part, though, of White Line Fever is how the

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movie got made. Columbia executive Peter Gouber saw Kaplin attached

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to a movie called White Line Fever, and he figured

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that he was the guy who already had made a

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truck movie. The problem is, Caplin's previous film was Truck Turner,

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which is not a truck movie. It was a blaxploitation

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film about a bounty hunter. But somehow the misunderstanding worked

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out and Columbia pushed the project forward. Anyways, Caplan later

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said he was really making a Western in the vein

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of Sam peckham Pah, only with trucks instead of horses.

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He even casted Peck and Paw veterans like Slim Pickens

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and l Q. Jones. White Line Fever ended up becoming

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a surprise hit of nineteen seventy five.

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That is too funny. A Black's potation movie becomes a

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truck exploitation movie, right, and it definitely helped launch the

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truck or movie craze. And I'll admit, at the time

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it came out, I mean I remember it, I did

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not understand why everybody was so excited about it, But

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it could have been that I was pretty young at

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the time. I didn't have my driver's license, so gas

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shortages the fifty five mile an hour speed limit were

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in the background for me. Certainly, I remember my dad

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being super frustrated about the speed limit. But I mean, honestly,

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we had a VW BUTS and on its best day

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loaded for a trip to Cape Cod it could barely

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maintain sixty miles an hour and it used no gas

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at all, So I just it's funny. I remember the

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gas lines, however, and there was rationing of sorts. If

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your license plate ended in an even number, you'd go

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get gas on certain days like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and

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if you were license was odd, then you had the

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other days. And most stations were closed on Sunday, so

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you really would back and forth. And then there were

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giant lines, and I remember going in the car with

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my mom on the giant line and I would sit

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in the car. I mean literally, it was like twelve

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or fourteen. I would sit in the car. She would

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get out and go do some shopping or something or

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whatever close by to the gas station, and I would

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creep the car up in.

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The Were you actually sitting behind the wheel?

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Oh?

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Yeah, I could drive. My older sister was crazy, sh

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she taught me to drive the VW Bus. I grew

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tall in eighth grade. I was the same height I

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am now, so you know you're tall. Yeah, so I'm

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like six' one and I was six one in eighth grade.

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So my sister taught me to drive when I was

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I mean, I think I was in sixth grade or something.

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She taught me to drive the VW Bus, which is

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actually pretty forgiving thing to drive because you're sitting sort

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of in front of the wheels, so you can see

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really easily.

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that throws people off, so it's really easy to keep

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it in the middle of the line. But I mean,

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that was my sister. She was crazy. That was my

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sister Becky. Two sisters up. So I have four sisters.

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I have three sisters that are older than me and

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one brother that's the oldest in the family, and she's

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the second one up from me. But she was always

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really good about showing me how to do things and whatnot.

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Are we ready to dive into production details of white

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line fever. Let's do it. Okay, Well, first we need

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to step away for a quick break, and we will

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be right back.

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Manic fast back and manic fast back.

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Carol Joe is back.

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Jerry waited two long years. Now it's time to make

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a life for themselves. He's an hon His trucker won't

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make deals.

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I mean, I don't hauld that stuff.

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I don't drive.

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Well, that's right, just keep your mouth shut and do

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what you're told.

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But it gets tougher for both of them.

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I'm pregnant Carol Joe, and I've been thinking they where

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shall work?

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They forced him to fight back their way.

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My name's Carol Joe Homer.

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I come to get work, and next time you just

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might not be so lucky.

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But he won't quit no matter what.

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You're about to walk off a clipboyt He's only gonna

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get too dead.

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Then they got the muscle, They own the law.

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You're in the rest of the murder a Dayne Howard.

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They terrify his wife.

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Take the dealer.

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Let's get the hell away from here.

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He's a working man who's had it heavy.

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Toy dog.

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You know who this is.

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Can you call him and tom I'm coming.

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Here ride with Carol Joe on a trip you'll never forget.

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Welcome back. We're going to get into the production details

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and then talk about the cast. White Line Fever was

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released on July sixteenth, nineteen seventy five, and distributed by

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Columbia Pictures. The film was made by International Cinemedia and

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the White Line Fever Syndicate. Jonathan Kaplan directed. John Kemeny

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was the producer. The film was shot by Fred Cohen

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Camp and as a quick aside, there are some unexpectedly

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amazing long shots of the main truck, the Blue Mule,

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driving throughout the Southwest. Nicholas Brown edited the film and

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music was by David nick Turn. White Line Fever had

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a budget of one point four million and brought in

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over thirty five million, and as you might expect, this

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film has a twenty nine percent critic rating on Rotten Tomato,

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with a fifty four percent rating with the audience. So

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while it was not a hit with the critics, the

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audience was still buying tickets to watch Carol Joe take

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on a corrupt trucking system. Matt, who do we have

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starring in this film?

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I mean, the main character played by Jan Michael Vincent.

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He played Carol Joe Hummer. He's an honest, independent trucker

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just leaving the Air Force, needs a way to make money,

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and he wants to get married to his sweetheart, and

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he endeavors to get a very large loan to buy

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a truck, and trucks are very very expensive. Detractors of

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the truck is very expensive. John Michael Vince has been

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in a number of movies. He was all the hotness

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in the nineteen seventies. I will tell you.

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I remember him from the TV show Airwolf and you

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mentioned him once before a long time ago as an

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alternate casting and at the time I thought, really, Jan

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Michael Vinson, Holy cow. Yeah, I did not realize what

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an up and coming actor he was at the time.

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He appeared in quite a few films, which is to

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his yetit. I mean, he was in The Mechanic, The

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World's Greatest Athlete, dam Nation Alley, Big Wednesday, which I

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have not heard of, but I think it was John

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Millius's surfing movie.

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We may have talked about this, but John Millius was

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kind of this. I will say he's a renaissance director

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and he has lots of interest, one of them being surfing,

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so he always wanted to make a surfing movie, and

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he made Big Wednesday.

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That's cool to go. I have to go check that

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out because it's probably good. Hooper, that's how Needham's stuntman movie,

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and of course Airwolf, and I remember him from Aerowolf

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as well. Really we don't see much from him after

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nineteen eighty six. I think he was in a few

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guest stars and stuff like that. He's probably on the

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Love Boat half a dozen times. He probably made that voyage.

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I remember Hooper that was with Burt Reynolds. We should

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probably come up with a stuntman.

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That would be good. Yeah, I think that'd be good.

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Hooper is really good because Burt Reynolds is the stunt

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man at the end of his career. Jan Michael Vincent

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is the young stuntman coming in. Oh cool. I thoroughly

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enjoyed that film.

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would be fun, that would be fun to do. I

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think there's a couple. So at least in the seventies.

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He did struggle with issues of addiction and eventually he

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passed away. Yeah, I think in two thousand and four.

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Kay Lyns played his wife, Jerry Caine Hummer. She plays

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the title character Breezy in the film Breezy that was

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directed by Clint Eastwood. She also played Sandy Sinclair in

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the horror film House. I thought kay Lyn's was good.

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It seems like at the beginning she was going to

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play more of a role in the trucking business. But

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then she just becomes a background character to some degree.

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Maybe at least it seems like to me maybe more

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of her involvement in the film ended on the cutting

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room floor.

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Yeah, so I'm going to say that her character steers

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the movie at certain plot points. CJ is a beneficiary

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of some of her actions that maybe he may not

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know about.

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Yeah, I don't know, no, no, knock on the actress.

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I'm sure she's wonderful. I just think it was written

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semi one dimensionally. It was a seventies movie. It was

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I mean, obviously we know this is like you were saying,

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a film that was made very inexpensively. One point five

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million dollars is nothing, right, I mean really, even back then,

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one point five million dollars was was nothing and to

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make thirty five million from it, I mean this is

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a huge success, oh big time. Maybe sadly because then

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a whole bunch of other movies along the same line

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came out which were.

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Terrible, and you know they varied in quality.

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you're like, well, if it's been two point five million,

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maybe they would have been able to write a story

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that was a little more engaging and not so weird.

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But anyway, nothing against k I think she did a

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good job from what she had to do. Now we

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move on to the next actor, who was one of

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my favorite, Slim Pickens as Dwayne Haller. He's a veteran

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trucker and old friend of CJ and CJ's father. But

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I think things change as you go through the movie

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and you realize that maybe Dwayne is being driven by

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things other than friendship.

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Dwayne was not the cowboy from The Getaway.

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No.

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I really liked the character in The Getaway, Yeah, Dwyane. No,

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he was more like a used car salesman. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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he was kind of kind of questionable. Slim Pickens was

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one of the Peck and Paw regulars.

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Yeah, and he's in a ton He's in The Getaway

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obviously we've already covered that on a Cinematic Flashback podcast.

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Look that episode up. It's a good one. Major Dundee.

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That's another Peck and Paw film, Pat Garrett and Billy

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the Kid Peck and Paw, and I think we have

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some other actors in this movie that are in that one. Yep,

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The Ballad of Cable Hogue, which is another peckin Paw film.

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And then Doctor Strange Love which is funny because I'm

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Doctor Strange was just crazy movie Blazing Saddles, which is

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a hilarious movie. Yeah, the Apple Dumpling Gang, which is

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kind of a kid's version of Blazing Saddles.

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If you ask me, Hey, look I love Apple, don't.

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Yeah, No, I'm not decrying it. I'm just saying it was.

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It was like a kid's version of Blazing Saddle. That's

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what I was watching in the seventies. Yeah, yeah, well

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you were nine and then nineteen forty one, which is

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an amazing amount of things to be in for someone

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who was He wasn't originally an actor, was slim picking.

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He was a radio guy right the Armed Forces. In

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prior to that, he was rodeo guy, which is crazy.

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He's great in this film.

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Obviously he plays kind of a questionable person in the movie,

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but still the actor wonderful job on that.

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Speaking of questionable guys, Buck Westler and if you thought

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that Dwayne Holler was to use car salesman, Buck Westler

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is just you feel like you have to go take

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a shower after you interact with him, because he is

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just that slimy of a guy. He played by l Q. Jones,

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who was another Peckham Pah regular and was featured in

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films like Ride the High Country, Major Dundee, The Wild Bunch,

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The Ballad of Cable Hogue, Pat Garrett, and Billy the Kid.

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He worked with Scorsese and Casino. He was in the

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movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson. And this was an

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interesting piece of trivia that I didn't know about him

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was that he wrote and directed the nineteen seventy five

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science fiction film called A Boy and his Dog starring

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Don Johnson. His birth name was Justice McQueen, but he

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adopted l Q. Smith as his stage name after his

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character in his debut film called Battle Cry.

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I want to talk about A Boy and his Dog

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a little bit, so for yeah, I read that novel

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early and it is a wacky science fiction novel. I

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remember the movie being wacky, Well, the book is far wackier,

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far far whackier. Harlan Ellison, he is one of my

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favorite sci fi authors. He's got some really great great books,

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and A Boy and His Dog is a good one.

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It's posts apocalyptic after a nuclear war, and dogs are

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bred to be intelligent. I think they have telekinetic powers

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to be able to communicate anyway. The film it's crazy,

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but I highly recommend the novel that it comes from,

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although be prepared to be you know, don't listen to

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it out loud.

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Let me say that.

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So, the character that plays the polished and corrupt head

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of the trucking syndicate and he represents the corporate side

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of the system that CJ is fighting against is Cuttler,

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played by Don Porter, and I think it's played really

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well by Don Porter. He really comes off as being

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that sinister corporate wonk who money is the object and

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really nothing matters. So he was in quite a few films,

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starting all the way back in nineteen forty two, so

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at the time of White Line Fever, I mean he

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was an elder statesman of the film industry. He's a

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night Monster in nineteen forty two, She Wolf of London

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in nineteen forty six, seven eleven, Ocean Drive in nineteen fifty.

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Gidget Grows to Rome in nineteen sixty three, and that's

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where I remember him first. I believe he was Gidget's father,

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and he was really sweet.

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In that movie. If you remember, well, he maybe don't remember.

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I don't.

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I remember the Gidget movies because Mike I had four sisters,

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so we watched the Gidget movies for sure, and then

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The Candidate with Robert Redford. He was Senator Croker Jarman

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and then mame in nineteen seventy four, and we don't

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hear much from him after that. He was pretty old

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by that point. Do you know what happened to him after?

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You know, I don't, But you know, he's one of

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these guys who always shows up on television programs as well. Yeah,

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he has such a long and broad IMDb list. Yeah,

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you know, you look through and you're trying to find

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some of the films that are kind of characteristics of

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the films that he did. Yeah, I think he was

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ever a leading man.

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It's definitely a character actor, but he really played it

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well in this movie because he had to come off

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as not just Holy Sinister, but somebody that you might

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invest in the company that he runs and unknowingly participate

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in hurting CJ and his family because you want to

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make good profits.

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Do you remember the film Caddyshack? Oh yeah, okay. For

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some reason, every time I saw Cutler in the film,

458
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he reminded me of Ten Nights, older but meaner brother

459
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:33.720
from That's Funny. The next guy was Dick Miller, who

460
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.240
plays Bertie. His full name, well, we don't know the

461
00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:39.079
full name, but we see written on the side of

462
00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:43.079
his truck. It says R Dot and end quotes Bertie Corman.

463
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:48.039
So R Corman, which is Roger Corman. Because Dick Miller

464
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:53.720
was another actor who worked with John Kaplan and Roger Corman.

465
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.759
And Dick Miller was in a lot of Corman films.

466
00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.799
He was even in the original Little Shop of Horrors,

467
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:03.880
He was in Piranha. The one film that always sticks

468
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.920
out for me was his role in the Joe Dante

469
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:13.079
film Brimlins, and Joe Dante's name actually gets dropped in

470
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:17.480
this movie when Cutler is asking about his appointments near

471
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:21.119
the end and Apparently later that evening he had his

472
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:26.240
dinner reservations confirmed with Joe Dante at five o'clock. I

473
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.160
love those little Easter eggs. Those are so fun. I'm

474
00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.640
telling you, I got so much mileage out of that

475
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.119
Roger Corman book. Again, I recommend that one a lot.

476
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:37.039
Probably try to get it so I can listen to it.

477
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.279
I gotta ask you a question.

478
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.079
Sure, when you first saw the character Clem, did you

479
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.400
recognize him? He looked really, really familiar. And then it

480
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.519
came to me that he was the guy in the

481
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.200
Karate Kid movie.

482
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.400
Yeah, and he sweeped the leg He was John Crees.

483
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:57.279
So Martin Cove plays Clem. And what really throws you

484
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.519
off is that he has jet black hair. To me,

485
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.960
I thought it obviously looked like a dye job. Oh yeah, yeah,

486
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.200
you could think of his black hair as a black hat.

487
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.039
He hangs around with a guy with a match stick

488
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.359
who also wears a black hat. I mean, the characters

489
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.279
in this movie are broadly drawn. You know who's good,

490
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:15.759
you know who's bad. Sure, yeah, it's like black hats

491
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:17.759
and light hats. We like to relate things from the

492
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.319
seventies to nowadays. But honestly, there's a show out there

493
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.279
called Cobra Kai right. Oh yeah, and it's sort of

494
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:29.039
those guys moved into the future. Yeah, Daniel LaRusso older Daniel.

495
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.000
It's really funny because kind of Daniel's kind of a

496
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.279
slimy used car salesman.

497
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.119
And the guy who's.

498
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.480
The bad guy, the kid who was the bad guy,

499
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:40.519
he's all grown up and he's his life is on

500
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.880
the rocks. But he's actually kind of the anti hero

501
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:46.240
of the show. I recommend it was. I didn't watch

502
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:49.200
all the episodes, but the ones I watched I really enjoyed.

503
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.079
They were funny. That leads us with one last actor

504
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:54.599
to talk about that, Sam Laws. What do you know

505
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:58.720
about him? Chuck? Sam Laws plays Pops den Witty. Pops

506
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.799
used to be a former driving partner of CJ's father.

507
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:08.480
Now the character of Pops Dinwitty appears in other films

508
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.640
that are made by John Kaplan and Truck Turner. Sam

509
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:17.759
Laws played Nate Dinwitty and Mister Billion. He plays Pops

510
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:22.039
din Witty. He was also in Project X with Matthew Brodericks,

511
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.759
also directed by John Kaplan. He was in Heart Like

512
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.119
a Wheel directed by Jonathan Kaplan. So you see he

513
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.119
has a lot of works. He's a John Kaplan regular.

514
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.960
Like so many of these actors, he had a lot

515
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.799
of television work and was a just a familiar face

516
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:39.799
on your TV screen.

517
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.160
One of the things about this podcast that's really opened

518
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.720
my eyes is that, you know, as a working actor

519
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.000
in Hollywood, sometimes you see sort of the superstars are

520
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.920
in this and they get these giant paychecks, and they

521
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.319
might do something every few years and they get these

522
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.000
massive paychecks. But really, the rank and file actors in Hollywood,

523
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:58.480
they're like working all the time.

524
00:27:58.559 --> 00:27:59.880
They're making a reasonable way.

525
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.359
Yeah, they make more money than anybody because they have talent,

526
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.440
But I mean a lot of them are just nose

527
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.319
to the grindstone, just working.

528
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.160
I would imagine that the majority of actors are not

529
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:13.240
in the superstar but they are in the I constantly

530
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.160
have work, I'm on everything, and then I just go

531
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.079
home at the end of the day. Yeah, you know,

532
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:19.680
I think there's a good amount of them.

533
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:21.839
I know a lot of them get into voice acting

534
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.599
because they really enjoy the gig. If you've ever listened

535
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.240
to some of the podcasts with like current actors who

536
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.519
are also voice actors, they love their voice acting work.

537
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.519
Because it's not real hard. They go home at the

538
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.200
end of the day, right, they're not on set in

539
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.279
Bangladesh or some crazy place. They're there, They go home,

540
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.160
they have dinner with their family, and they come back

541
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.839
and they voice you know, the family guy or something

542
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.519
like that, and it's it's pretty cool that they make

543
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:48.279
a lot of money doing the voice acting.

544
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.680
They do like it. Well, Matt, I think that wraps

545
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.039
up all of the casts that we wanted to speak about.

546
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.480
Why don't you let our listeners know what this movie

547
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.359
is about.

548
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.640
A young Air Force veteran, Carol Joe Hummer played by

549
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.480
Jan Michael Vincent, starts a business as the owner operator

550
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.799
of a thirteen speed seven and one half ton diesel truck,

551
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:17.920
which he dresses up and names the Blue Mule. With

552
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.680
us bride Jerry played by Kay Lens. He sets off

553
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.119
to Tucson, Arizona, where his old friend Dwayne played by

554
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.279
Slim Pickens, is the manager of a trunk company and

555
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:32.359
can give him some work. But after Carol Joe realizes

556
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.640
he will be carrying a legal cargo and refuses the assignment,

557
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.680
he's beaten by a band of gangsters working for an

558
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.519
organized group of criminals headed by Cutler played by Don Porter.

559
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.880
When Carol Joe's commitment to staying on us results in

560
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.880
even further violent retributions from the trucking syndicate, he has

561
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.240
no choice but to team up with other independent truckers

562
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:58.000
to break Cutler's stranglehold and uphold the rights of decent

563
00:29:58.160 --> 00:29:59.000
working man.

564
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.480
I was fully expecting you to start off with in

565
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:11.160
a world, in a world that needs independent truckers, A

566
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.640
young Air Force veteran, Yeah, I guess I could do that.

567
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.519
We've got a lot to say about this one, but

568
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.480
first we're going to pull the rig over for a

569
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.319
quick break stick around. We'll be right back with our

570
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:24.559
thoughts on White Line Fever flashback.

571
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:36.000
Welcome to the All Eighties Movies podcast. I'm Bill and

572
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.519
I'm Jason, and this is the podcast where we talk

573
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.039
about the blockbusters, the flops, and everything in between from

574
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.279
one of the freshest decades for movies, the nineteen eighties.

575
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.680
So whether you're a brain, a jock, a valley girl,

576
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.680
or a Jedi, we've got some eighties classics for you.

577
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.839
Do these movies stand the test of time? Are we

578
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.880
discovering something new? Is there an Eighties movie we are

579
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:59.359
finally watching for the first time.

580
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.240
Join us each week as we dive into the cinematic

581
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.240
nostalgia that inspired and influenced a generation, from the hits

582
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.200
to the cult classics. We'll discuss our earliest memories, favorite scenes,

583
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.279
fun facts, and are not so favorite movie moments too.

584
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.599
You can find the All Eighties Movies podcast wherever you

585
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:20.359
listen to your podcast. Please subscribe and happy listening.

586
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:33.599
And cinematic flash back belly kickers.

587
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.440
This here is Carol Joe Hommer, and I'm commencing broadcasting

588
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.920
to you today from my new bucket, which will from

589
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:40.640
now on be.

590
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.960
Known as the Blue Mule.

591
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.200
We're in business for ourselves, me and the Mule, and

592
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:46.079
we aim to get.

593
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.759
Our butts out of hawk. It's all you Turkey's better

594
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:50.359
watch out. We don't get all the work.

595
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.400
Amen to that happy hofey Blue Mule.

596
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.279
Say what bet you got between your legs?

597
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.359
Honey, it's the Blue.

598
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.000
Mule, A happy honkey got a ford a teen nine

599
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.559
thousand comments. What are humma, I'm kind of out off.

600
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.960
That's right, owner operator, got to operate to own hey.

601
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.119
Man of that Welcome back, all right. From here on out,

602
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.720
we're going to talk about our thoughts on White Line

603
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.839
Fever and it might inadvertently give some spoilers. If you

604
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.440
would like to watch White Line Fever, it is available

605
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.160
to rent at all of the usual locations.

606
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:27.839
Matt, had you seen White Line Fever before?

607
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:34.440
I think I had, and I probably forgot about it,

608
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.079
which is basically what you're.

609
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.960
Gonna hear from me at the end. Of course, this

610
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.960
was obviously my first time. I reached out to one

611
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.039
of my co workers. He knows a lot about seventies films,

612
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.119
and I asked him if he had heard about White

613
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.759
Line Fever, and he goes, oh, yeah, sure, you mean

614
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.039
the movie with Jan Michael Vincent and the truck.

615
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.200
Yeah, we definitely all knew that White Line Fever there

616
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.240
was a truck movie. I'll be honest with you, I've

617
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.480
never been a huge van of Jan Michael Vincent. I

618
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.200
don't think he has a lot of depth in his

619
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:11.160
acting capabilities. You know, that's just me. I know, I

620
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.279
did not go to the movies to see this in

621
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.680
the theater because it would not have been a movie

622
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.759
I would have been interested in. I wasn't a car guy.

623
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:20.799
I wasn't really you know.

624
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.359
That a cbe radio guy. No sci fi and.

625
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.960
The movies I enjoyed as a child, We're not We're

626
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.839
not along lines of like muscle cars and stuff. I

627
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.640
was surprised that I enjoyed American graffiti because it was

628
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.759
so much car culture kind of stuff which just did

629
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.359
not really interest me that much. I worked at a

630
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.880
gas station. I really had a deep abiding hatred for cars,

631
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.960
at least, you know, all the goofballs they would come

632
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.799
in with their jacked dep cars and extra goofy stuff

633
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.200
that I just never saw, like aftermarket stuff on cars

634
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.000
just does not float my boat.

635
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.119
During the recent truckers strike, I talked with some Americans

636
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.720
that the media seems to have overlooked not how long

637
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.759
of you and driving a rig like this about fifteen years?

638
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.759
Do you work for a company? No, I'm an independent

639
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.360
independent driver. That means you own your own rig. Yeah,

640
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.559
I'm in a bank or what sort of investment does

641
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.119
or rig like this take to hold? About thirty eight

642
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.079
thousand dollars? I imagine it puts quite a bit of

643
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.960
pressure on you making monthly famous. My wife works, what

644
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:19.800
kind of works she do? Is bartender?

645
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:20.199
Well?

646
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.280
How do you stay ahead in business? How do you

647
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:23.079
get your loads lined?

648
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:23.199
Up.

649
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.679
Oh, independent brokers, shippers. I don't get anything while I'm

650
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.199
the sept So if someone controlled the brokers and the shippers,

651
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.800
they'd be controlling the trucking industry. They do. You told

652
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.199
me before that you carry a gun with you.

653
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:37.000
Is that true?

654
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:37.719
Right?

655
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.800
Why do you protect myself? If someone tries to sneak

656
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.960
into your cab, just show them the gun, you know,

657
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.559
and they'll mosey on down row. Just how far would

658
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.639
you go to protect your rig and your profession? You

659
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:51.920
never know until you'll put to the task.

660
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.360
Before I press play on this film, I had never

661
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.199
heard of it. I did not know what I was

662
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.360
getting into. I didn't even know what white line fever references.

663
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.639
The movie opens up, and it's kind of opens up

664
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.280
like it did in Westworld, where you have this man

665
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.599
on the street interview between these two guys and they're

666
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.239
just talking about the trucking strike, and the guy the

667
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.079
trucker is like he's an independent owner operator. I kind

668
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:19.719
of felt like maybe they were just setting up some

669
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:24.480
verbiage to begin to introduce language of truck driving that

670
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.280
people might not have known at the time.

671
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.880
No, I think you definitely have to intro for a

672
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.440
very subject like this, if you're not in that trucker,

673
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.840
if you don't have a CBE radio, if you don't

674
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:37.320
know what an independent operator is versus a corporate trucker.

675
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.360
You know, all of that was important to this movie.

676
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.519
If you didn't understand that, you'd be like, what can

677
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:43.360
you just go work for some other company?

678
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:48.039
Right? And the idea being independent just means that you

679
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.679
have control of your own destiny.

680
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.960
Right, Well, you can go have a mortgage to pay

681
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.960
on your truck, which is sure. Oh well, that truck

682
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.440
is more expensive than that shack they were living in.

683
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.760
Clearly, right, they should have lived in the truck.

684
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.400
I mean they do, right, they have the little sleeper

685
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.360
cab in the back, and oh they do have that. Yeah,

686
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.400
I mean that they spend a lot of time in

687
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.519
the truck. So that's just the nature of the beast.

688
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:13.800
I thought this movie was I don't know. I wasn't

689
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.599
really sure what it was going to be, so I

690
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.719
didn't I wasn't expecting it to be a serious film

691
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:20.760
the way that it was.

692
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.920
Yeah, I would agree, I would agree it was. I

693
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:26.840
expected it to be what it was, and it was.

694
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.239
I will say that we didn't talk about this before

695
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.039
but there are some really fantastic long shots of the

696
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.599
American West and the truck going through it and are

697
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.880
one of the trucks, because I think we know that

698
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.360
they used several different trucks to film and also for

699
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.679
some kind of across the nation publicity tour or something.

700
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:45.360
Yeah.

701
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.119
Yeah, so that was really cool. I did love that.

702
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.639
And it's cool because you know, you have a maybe

703
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.840
a five thousand dollars camera with a telephoto lens and

704
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:58.559
a beautiful American West scene and it's just classic, great,

705
00:36:58.800 --> 00:36:59.719
you know pictures.

706
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.840
Yet those scenes that really surprised me. So I could

707
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:04.880
only imagine that maybe they took one of those extra

708
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.639
trucks and they sent the second unit director out to

709
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:09.960
film all of that. Go Get made some great scenes.

710
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:12.920
Yeah yeah, and he comes back and I don't think

711
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.360
that some of those shots fit with the shots of

712
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:17.599
the rest of the movie.

713
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.880
No, definitely not. But remember it was only one point

714
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.239
five million dollars. Yeah, when the second unit came back,

715
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.840
it's like, this is what you got, this is you got,

716
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:26.559
this is fitted in.

717
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.800
You have what you have. We're not going out again,

718
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.920
we're not doing reshoots. And so the movie turns out

719
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.880
to be I don't know. Everyone has described it that

720
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.760
Kaplan was going out to make a Western film, but

721
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.440
just with trucks instead of horses. But also it kind

722
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:44.880
of became like like a normal ray type of film,

723
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.039
you know, like I was expecting him to stand up

724
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.760
and hold a sign on the union. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

725
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.079
I can see how people would say it's like a

726
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.079
Western because you have sort of the independent you know,

727
00:37:56.199 --> 00:38:00.639
almost like the independent bounty hunter. But the bounty seeking

728
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.880
are the truckloads to make his to be able to

729
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.519
make his mortgage payment on the truck, right, So those

730
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.639
are the bounties he's seeking. And then he has these

731
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.679
corrupt individuals who are trying to, you know, sort of

732
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.880
fudge the system and whatnot, and he's doing battle against them.

733
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.519
So it's it's definitely a trucker esque, but then you

734
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.880
also get into that normal race stuff like you brought up.

735
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.000
I think that's spot on. There's no way I can

736
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.960
oversell this film to anyone. I mean, it is what

737
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:31.239
it is. It's not great cinema of the seventies, but

738
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.079
the director does a pretty decent job telling you who

739
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.719
the good guys are and who the bad guys are.

740
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.079
Almost to the point of it being a little stereotypical.

741
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.320
I think I said something about the you know, a

742
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.199
cowboy has a black hat on, right, so already, even

743
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.920
though he already looks suspicious to the whole film, you

744
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.559
know he's bad because he's got the black hat. And

745
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.920
some of it was maybe a little bit too much

746
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:56.199
on the nose, maybe.

747
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.400
So, But you're also talking about a movie that's going

748
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.880
to be in the movie theater. People go, get to popcorn,

749
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.400
get them back to their seat, you know, use the bathroom,

750
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.880
and they have missed anything. I hate a movie that

751
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.400
if you miss one instant, like an instant, it changes

752
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:12.960
the entire pallor of the whole film, right, And I've

753
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.800
done that before because I always get up in the

754
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.639
middle of movies and go to the bathroom or something,

755
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:18.760
and if I'm at a movie theater, I can't hit pause,

756
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:20.880
so I come back to the movie. And I've been

757
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.239
in a movie where it's like, okay, sat back down.

758
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.760
Then you're like, I have no idea what's happening in

759
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.199
the rest of the film because something happened while you're

760
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.480
in the bathroom. That's unenjoyable to me. And I'll be honest,

761
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.480
with you it maybe it made so much money, because

762
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.400
that's not what's going on here. It's like you're in

763
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.159
the film. You might be there with your sweetheart.

764
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:40.480
You know.

765
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.400
Maybe you're paying attention to the film. Maybe you're not,

766
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.119
but you haven't really missed a lot.

767
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.039
You know, this film is not going to ask much

768
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.760
of you, right, other than be entertained.

769
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.639
And I think that is exactly why you see the

770
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.559
Rotten Tomatoes and the critics given it middling score, if

771
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.719
not low score, and people went to see it's so different, right,

772
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:04.840
I mean, you can't argue with making that much money

773
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.440
on a one point five million dollar film.

774
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:07.800
I mean it made a ton of money, So.

775
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.320
There's something that was a nice and I think we

776
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:14.400
can't discount the time in which it was released. Like

777
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:18.960
we mentioned the gas shortage, we mentioned Watergate, we mentioned

778
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.480
all of that stuff going on. People were looking for

779
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.519
good and bad, right, we were clearly somebody's at fault,

780
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.760
someone is not, and there's the good American guy is

781
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.079
fighting the good fight.

782
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:32.400
Right.

783
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.599
Remember, during the gas crisis, it's like, why are we

784
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:36.719
having this gas prizes?

785
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.199
Basically as Opik didn't.

786
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.119
Want to punt more oil and they want to get more.

787
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.079
They want to get more dollars per barrel. Right, that

788
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.880
was basically the core of the thing. Opek was bad guy.

789
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.199
What can you do? You can't really do anything about it.

790
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:49.559
You were at subject to it.

791
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.480
So who was your favorite supporting character in this film?

792
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.679
I think Slim Pickens. He was hilarious. I mean, he

793
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.679
was not a good guy in the film. Obviously we

794
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.400
know that. We intimated that before the break, but we

795
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.840
now know he was. He was acting in his own

796
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.119
self interest largely, but also he was being extorted. He

797
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.000
was in a bad position. He was in a pen,

798
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.679
but he never let anybody know, and he threw the

799
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:12.800
star to the wolves.

800
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:14.679
But he's still Slim Pickens. He's hilarious.

801
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.320
He's he's in a giant Cadillac with a bunch of

802
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.320
with like some girls.

803
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.760
I need a Cadillac with the bullhorns.

804
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:21.920
All.

805
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.519
No, it wasn't a Cadillac. It was a silver thunderbird, right.

806
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.760
It was, Oh my gosh, yes it was. It was,

807
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.800
but it was an open top. It was a convertible. Yeah,

808
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.599
so it was hilarious. But anyway, Yeah, so Slim Pickens

809
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.760
is definitely my favorite. I was kind of saying, how

810
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.719
l Q Jones was a little slimy and greasy just

811
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.360
because he was like he was just ugh. But I

812
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:48.039
loved his character Buck Wesler Wesler Westler because he was

813
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:52.440
a good enough antagonist at the mid level, right. He

814
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.480
wasn't at the higher Cutler level that had the real

815
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.920
power to put the squeeze on you. But he was

816
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.360
the muscle in the street and he had his gang

817
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.079
with Clem and mattch stick Man. I really liked him.

818
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.719
I also liked Pops as well. Yeah. Sure.

819
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.679
Now on the on the LQ ben it was funny

820
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.199
because in a fair fight, Jan Michael Vincent, who weighed

821
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.599
in at maybe one hundred and ten pounds, was beating

822
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:21.039
that guy.

823
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.039
Silly. If that fight scene between Vincent and LQ Jones

824
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.199
would have been in slow motion, it would have been

825
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.360
perfect packing pot. Yeah, but I mean he's throwing these

826
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.400
roundhouses and just walloping them up, you know. And I'm

827
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:36.960
sure l Q Jones is going, why did I choose

828
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:41.599
to wear leather tonight? I mean, exactly, move no flexibility

829
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.960
in this whatsoever. I can't move, I can't get off

830
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.119
the ground. But LQ has the best weapon in the

831
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.840
entire movie. He comes at him with a forklift. I

832
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:56.119
mean he sees that front down and that was you know,

833
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.199
death by forklip would have been hilarious. That was very funny.

834
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.360
Let's talk about some of the action in the trucking

835
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.239
in this movie. What was your favorite stunt or action

836
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:05.360
sequence in the film.

837
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.360
I mean, obviously, everybody's going to point to driving through

838
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:09.880
the gh in the front.

839
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.599
Okay, that's it seems that's a given. Yeah, that's a given.

840
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:14.320
But it's to me it was like sort of the

841
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.960
most I don't know, that was the That was the

842
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.599
build up, right, that was the big grant, That was

843
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.280
the big release of the frustration, I guess, but I

844
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:26.239
don't know. None of them really stand out more to

845
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.280
me than that. Yeah, I'm gonna remind you of the scene,

846
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.360
Oh when he climbs on top. Yeah, CJ and Pops

847
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:32.119
are driving out.

848
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.199
Yeah. CJ climbs up on top. Yeah that actually I

849
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.440
remember that. Yeah, he's barrel rolling and then finally he

850
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.880
I don't know how he did this. He hangs on

851
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.599
to the side of the truck so his body is

852
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.599
physically off the top, and he fires the shot gun

853
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.199
with one hand, and that whole sequence was again it

854
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.639
if you were with us with duel. It was filmed

855
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.239
really low, so the trucks felt like that they were

856
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.400
really really really fast. Yeah, no, I do remember that now.

857
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.400
I thought the action felt very intense.

858
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.800
That was cool, I'll be honest with the coolest part

859
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.079
was Jan Michael Vincent climbing on or the stuntman climbing

860
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.920
on the roof of the tractor and jumping onto the trailer,

861
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.679
which is no small distance. I mean it could be

862
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.280
ten feet. That is a leap. Then he rolls down

863
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.360
and then he jumps off like he described, and then

864
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.079
he shoots the shotgun and they go off this sting

865
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:19.920
And that was cool.

866
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.719
That was very very cool. Now, you had sent me

867
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.280
a note about stuntman Buddy Joe Hooker that was a

868
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:25.800
stuntman for Jan Michael Penson.

869
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:27.719
Yeah, yeah, i'd sent you that. I just saw that

870
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.559
on it came up on my scan. You know how

871
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.719
it is, you mentioned anything about something and the next

872
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.519
thing you know, on Instagram you're getting.

873
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:38.679
Everything comes like are you listening to me? Because really

874
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.639
you are not at all, not at all. After watching

875
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.280
the film, did you at all have any romanticized feelings

876
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.800
of becoming a truck driver and hitting out on the

877
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:49.400
open road.

878
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.320
I think the long hauled truck driver's days are numbers,

879
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.760
sad to say, but a robot is going to do

880
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.760
that job far better and far more safely.

881
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.320
Matt, I just had a great idea. Why don't you

882
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.440
and I start working on a screen treatment for White

883
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.239
Line Fever two robots where we pick up with with

884
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.719
CJ and his wife now owning and operating a fleet

885
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.039
of self driven trucks.

886
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.440
Yeah, that would be good, But let's say we turned

887
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.119
Jan Michael Vincent doesn't make it in the trucking industry,

888
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.920
goes back to night school, becomes this genius programmer, and

889
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.920
he infiltrates the automated trucking industry so he can independently

890
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.159
run his trucking and not get run off the road

891
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.719
by the evil empire of robotic truckers.

892
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.960
Or maybe in a twist, he becomes the bad guy, right,

893
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.760
he becomes the cutler of this world. And then you

894
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.800
have someone like Sylvester Stallone from Over the Top movie. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.800
Now he's playing the Jan Michael Vincent role of White.

896
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.400
Fever, trying to get all the trucks automated so for

897
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:52.159
safety Meanwhile, Jan Michael Vincent wants independent truckers to drive

898
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.079
these things, and the trucks keep driving off the road

899
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:55.280
and killing people, and.

900
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.039
At the end is settled by an arm wrestling match, Right,

901
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.079
that would be the best? That would be. Here's a

902
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.239
fun question for you. Okay, you're ready?

903
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.440
Huh if you were naming your own big rig that

904
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:11.039
you just had a five hundred thousand dollars mortgage on, Oh, what.

905
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:11.639
Would you name?

906
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:11.840
Oh?

907
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:13.920
My gosh, can I name it anything? I want? Anything

908
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.719
you want? I don't know. Thinking about what we're doing here,

909
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.440
I'll call it the spoiler Wagon. Spoiler Wagon. I have

910
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.800
no idea what i'd name in truck. I think maybe

911
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:30.440
your rig could be called the French Connector how about

912
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:38.679
that I can only haul heroin illegal drugs. Oh, that

913
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.280
would be hilarious. That would be hilarious. Okay, what is

914
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:46.519
the most nineteen seventy five thing in this film? Gosh?

915
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.920
I think Jan Michael Vincent's hair has gotta be number

916
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.840
one for me, and probably the amount of time he

917
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.119
took to quaffit. It definitely has to be in the conversation. Yeah,

918
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.519
for me, there is so much beer.

919
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:05.920
Just casually being consumed at the office, yes, or anywhere

920
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.880
in this film. Someone always has a bottle in their hand.

921
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.239
Or Jerry finds out that she's pregnant and she's also

922
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:16.079
holding a beer at the same time. It's crazy stuff.

923
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:18.800
Oh yeah, that's funny. Yeah, there was a lot of

924
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.760
nineteen seventy five things. I did remember what I was watching.

925
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.280
It is all the cars, but if you look at

926
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.199
the cars in the background, they're all a giant American

927
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.559
made Cadillacs and oh yeah, giant gas guzzlers.

928
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.440
What about the one car that comes up to the

929
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.519
golf course. It looked to me like it was three

930
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.400
rows because the guy in the back seat had to

931
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.599
lean over and it looked like he was flipping his

932
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.840
seat forward so the guy in behind him could get out.

933
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.239
This was a huge car. No wonder people were standing

934
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.800
in line, you know, to get gas. I'm getting seven

935
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:53.559
miles to the gown. We need to take a quick break,

936
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.760
but we'll be right back, like.

937
00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.400
Flash back.

938
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:07.280
And flashback, welcome back. So, Matt, do you mind if

939
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.199
I take a little bit of creative licensing on our

940
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:16.920
trademark question? Absolutely, does Whiteline Fever keep on trucking or

941
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:19.400
did it have to take the runaway ramp? Where did

942
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.119
it go for you? I want to be clear. Through

943
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.119
doing the Cinematic Flashback podcast, I've become more critical of films,

944
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.519
which in the past I was not, so I do

945
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.039
look at them a little more with the critics eye.

946
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.800
So from that side, I kind of agree with the

947
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.639
critics with this film that it was not the cinematic

948
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.719
juggernaut of creativity that many other.

949
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.159
Films could be. In that case, I'm kind of like e.

950
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.679
But also I'm a person who watches movies, and it

951
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.840
was enjoyable to watch it. It was not a hard slog.

952
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.360
We have watched a couple movies that are like, wait

953
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.320
a minute, I need to watch that again. It was

954
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.880
not one of those. So it was fun. Want and done, Yeah,

955
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.719
want and done. It was a one and done. I

956
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.199
will say that I think some of the character development's

957
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.719
a little bit one dimensional. I think Jan Michael Visson's

958
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.800
wife and some of the compatriots. A compatriot gets killed

959
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.320
and it's sort of like, Okay, we're really mad, but

960
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.760
then his wife gets beat up and then all hell

961
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.079
breaks those so a little bit weird on that. To

962
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.559
be honest with you, I recommend people watch it because

963
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.199
it's a little bit like opening up an old picture

964
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.400
album from when you were a kid and looking at

965
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.039
old pictures and seeing some of the old how life

966
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.159
was lived back then, how things went. So that was

967
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.519
really cool to watch that. So I like that part.

968
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:38.760
Do I think it keeps trucking? I do think it

969
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.639
keeps trucking For what it is, let's not make it

970
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:45.199
more than it is. It is an entertaining film, made

971
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.719
a ton of money. I can see why the actors

972
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:50.559
had some fun in it. I don't think they didn't

973
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:52.559
look like it took a long time to film, and

974
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:56.199
nobody was digging in the depths of their soul to deliver,

975
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:01.559
to deliver an acting juggernaut. They were just doing the work.

976
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:02.239
It was good.

977
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:05.320
It was good enough, right, good enough? So I say, yep,

978
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.480
it keeps on trucking. Did not have to hit the

979
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.840
runaway truck ramp, never got going that fast, so pretty

980
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.280
safe coming down the mountain, didn't have to just had

981
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:16.960
to go into a few lower gears.

982
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.559
No runaway truck ramp. How about you, Jack, I am yeah,

983
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.480
I am not going to try and overseell this movie

984
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:27.599
at all. And I think just like you, I think

985
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.360
Rotten Tomatoes score is probably pretty pretty fair, right. You know,

986
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.320
critics didn't like it, but people went to go and

987
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.679
see it. But I will say that I enjoyed it

988
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.239
a lot more than what I thought I was going

989
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.480
to fair. And once I realized who John Kaplan was,

990
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:48.280
and then I do remember reading his excerpts in the

991
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.320
Roger Korman book, and I was starting to put things

992
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.039
in together. I think I gained a lot more respect

993
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:56.199
for what he was trying to do here. So, yeah,

994
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:59.320
he's trying to make a Western with really clear cut

995
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.800
good guys and clear cut bad guys. It just happens

996
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:03.679
to have trucks.

997
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.480
Yeah, I think that's why it hit with fans. You,

998
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:07.760
I think you hit the nail on the head.

999
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.719
I liked the second unit cinematography, maybe not the first

1000
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.719
unit cinematography, and I thought the stunt work was really

1001
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.840
really good in the film. I mean, we talked about

1002
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.559
Fred Cohen Camp and the work that he did, and

1003
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:22.599
he had an incredible career Matt. It included movies like

1004
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:26.239
Towering Inferno, Papion, and later he did the Adventures of

1005
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.719
Buckeru Bonzai. We talked about Buddy Joe Hooker coordinating the

1006
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.000
stunts and doubling Jan Michael Vincent along with Harry Laughton

1007
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.599
who did the stunts work for the truck. I think

1008
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:40.039
what was really the most interesting lasting impact of that

1009
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.280
final stunt where he drives the Blue Mule through the

1010
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:47.880
GH logo was that last year Rob Mariana Rob Mariana

1011
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.199
as the host of the Speed Channels series American Trucker,

1012
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:56.800
he was discussing plans for a documentary project, a crowdfunded

1013
00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:01.159
documentary project that would recreate the fame famous Blue Mule

1014
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.800
Glasshouse stunt with Mike Ryan and Buddy Joe Hooker. So again,

1015
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:11.039
this isn't some lost masterpiece of nineteen seventy cinema. I

1016
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.199
do think it's a nice little gem. So for me,

1017
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.719
White Line Fever keeps on trucking, and I don't think

1018
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:21.360
it needed to take the runaway ramp as well. Matt

1019
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.039
Any final thoughts now, just to say I agree, I

1020
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:27.239
think you really put it very well. I am in

1021
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.880
one hundred percent agreement with you. That wraps it up

1022
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.199
for our review of White Line Fever. Join us in

1023
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:36.599
two weeks as we keep on trucking with Sam Peckhampa's

1024
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:42.000
Convoy from nineteen seventy eight, starring Chris Christofferson, Ali mcraw bert,

1025
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.880
Young and Ernest Borgnine. If White Line Fever felt like

1026
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.800
an homage to Peck and PA's Westerns, next time we

1027
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.480
get to see what happens when Peck and Pah himself

1028
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.920
tackles the similar material, but now in a post smoky

1029
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.960
in the bandit world where truckers have become full blown

1030
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.840
pop culture icons, and some how we're going to explain

1031
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:06.400
how Convoy would eventually help shape Christmas music. Yes, really

1032
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.280
you're going to want to hear that story Christmas music.

1033
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:14.480
I'm interested to hear about that because bands we're going

1034
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.440
to cover the Convoy. We want to thank you for

1035
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.760
taking the time to tune in. If you've seen White

1036
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:21.920
Line Fever, reach out and let us know your thoughts.

1037
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.039
You can find us on Facebook or leave us a

1038
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.920
message over at Cinematic Flashback dot com. Don't forget to

1039
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.039
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1040
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:34.320
been enjoying the show, tell your friends and family about

1041
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.760
what we still proudly believe is the best podcast dedicated

1042
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:41.079
to nineteen seventies cinema. Join us next time as we

1043
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:43.880
hop back into the Wayback machine and head once again

1044
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.679
to the nineteen seventies for another classic. Until then, keep

1045
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.000
the hammer down and we'll see you next.

1046
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:50.800
Time we.

1047
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:59.159
Flashback to the tales untold you get.

1048
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Should have

1049
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:02.480
Little